QUESTIONS ON THE 'UNAM, SANCTAM...ECCLESIAM'
Here it comes, the first blaze in the firestorm! Of course, Reuters is first to ignite the flame....And I just finished writng a comment about how Reuters had been typical of MSM's wilful blindness to look at objective fact in fomenting and playing up the totally unwarranted Jewish outrage over the MP! [I was commenting on Fr. Neuhaus's strong statements about the Jewish ADL's Foxman who shoots first without ever asking - but the whole post is frozen, so meanwhile let me post this first].
Vatican says other Christian churches 'wounded'
By Phil Stewart
VATICAN CITY, July 10(Reuters) - The Vatican on Tuesday said Christian denominations outside the Roman Catholic Church were not full churches of Jesus Christ.
A 16-page document, prepared by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which Pope Benedict used to head, described Christian Orthodox churches as true churches, but suffering from a "wound" since they do not recognize the primacy of the Pope.
But the document said the "wound is still more profound" in the Protestant denominations - a view likely to further complicate relations with Protestants.
"Despite the fact that this teaching has created no little distress ... it is nevertheless difficult to see how the title of 'Church' could possibly be attributed to them," it said.
The Vatican text, which restates the controversial document
Dominus Iesus issued by the then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger in 2000, said the Church wanted to stress this point because some Catholic theologians continued to misunderstand it.
Ratzinger was elected Pope in April 2005. The document is his second strong reaffirmation of Catholic tradition in four days, following a decree on Saturday restoring the old Latin Mass alongside the modern liturgy.
The document stressed that dialogue with other Christians remained "one of the priorities of the Catholic Church."
The document, issued by Benedict's successor in doctrinal matters, Cardinal William Levada, complemented the Latin Mass decree in aiming to correct what it called "erroneous or ambiguous" interpretations of the Second Vatican Council, which took place from 1962 to 1965. [
Oh thanks, you got that right!]
Church modernizers interpreted the Council as a break from the past while conservatives, like Benedict, see it in continuity with 2,000 years of Catholic tradition.
The document said the Council's opening to other faiths recognized there were "many elements of sanctification and truth" in other Christian denominations, but stressed only Catholicism had all the elements to be Christ's Church fully.
The text refers to "ecclesial communities originating from the Reformation," a term used to refer to Protestants and Anglicans.
Father Augustine Di Noia, Under-Secretary for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, said the document did not alter the commitment for ecumenical dialogue, but aimed to assert Catholic identity in those talks.
"The Church is not backtracking on ecumenical commitment," Di Noia told Vatican radio.
"But, as you know,
it is fundamental to any kind of dialogue that the participants are clear about their own identity. That is, dialogue cannot be an occasion to accommodate or soften what you actually understand yourself to be."
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Just to put things in perspective:
The Great Schism was in 1054 - when the Eastern Church broke off from Rome.
The Protestant Reformation began with Martin Luther's activities in 1517 and concluded with the Peace of Westphalia in 1648 - an attempt to reform the Catholic Church that led instead to the fracturing of Christendom.
Now, how can any Church founded 1500 years after Christ pretend to be the 'one true Church' and why should they be offended if the Catholic Church restates what has always been its doctrine?
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Pope: Other Christians not true churches
By NICOLE WINFIELD
LORENZAGO DI CADORE, Italy, July 10 (AP) - Pope Benedict XVI has reasserted the universal primacy of the Roman Catholic Church, approving a document released Tuesday that says Orthodox churches were defective and that other Christian denominations were not true churches.
Benedict approved a document from his old offices at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith that restates church teaching on relations with other Christians.
It was the second time in a week the pope has corrected what he says are erroneous interpretations of the Second Vatican Council, the 1962-65 meetings that modernized the church.
On Saturday, Benedict revisited another key aspect of Vatican II by reviving the old Latin Mass. Traditional Catholics cheered the move, but more liberal ones called it a step back from Vatican II.
Benedict, who attended Vatican II as a young theologian, has long complained about what he considers the erroneous interpretation of the council by liberals, saying it was not a break from the past but rather a renewal of church tradition.
In the latest document formulated as five questions and answers the Vatican seeks to set the record straight on Vatican II's ecumenical intent, saying some contemporary theological interpretation had been "erroneous or ambiguous" and had prompted confusion and doubt.
It restates key sections of a 2000 document the pope wrote when he was prefect of the congregation, "Dominus Iesus," which set off a firestorm of criticism among Protestant and other Christian denominations because it said they were not true churches but merely ecclesial communities and therefore did not have the "means of salvation."
In the new document and an accompanying commentary, which were released as the pope vacations here in Italy's Dolomite mountains, the Vatican repeated that position.
"Christ 'established here on earth' only one church," the document said. The other communities "cannot be called 'churches' in the proper sense" because they do not have apostolic succession the ability to trace their bishops back to Christ's original apostles.
The Rev. Sara MacVane of the Anglican Centre in Rome, said there was nothing new in the document.
"I don't know what motivated it at this time," she said. "But it's important always to point out that there's the official position and there's the huge amount of friendship and fellowship and worshipping together that goes on at all levels, certainly between Anglican and Catholics and all the other groups and Catholics."
The document said Orthodox churches were indeed "churches" because they have apostolic succession and that they enjoyed "many elements of sanctification and of truth." But it said they lack something because they do not recognize the primacy of the pope a defect, or a "wound" that harmed them, it said.
"This is obviously not compatible with the doctrine of primacy which, according to the Catholic faith, is an 'internal constitutive principle' of the very existence of a particular church," the commentary said.
Despite the harsh tone of the document, it stresses that Benedict remains committed to ecumenical dialogue.
"However, if such dialogue is to be truly constructive, it must involve not just the mutual openness of the participants but also fidelity to the identity of the Catholic faith," the commentary said.
The document, signed by the congregation prefect, U.S. Cardinal William Levada, was approved by Benedict on June 29, the feast of Sts. Peter and Paul a major ecumenical feast day.
There was
no indication about why the pope felt it necessary to release the document, particularly since his 2000 document summed up the same principles. Some analysts suggested it could be a question of internal church politics, or that it could simply be an indication of Benedict using his office as pope to again stress key doctrinal issues from his time at the congregation.
[DUH! And I thought she 'got it', from her statement in Paragraph 2 of her report - see above!]
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There oughta be a law requiring that - if they can't be orthodox Catholics who 'think with the Church' - then newsmen reporting on the Vatican should at least acquaint themselves well with what the Catholic Church is all about. That way, they will not be prone to raising unwarranted polemics everytime the Church re-states her doctrine....The reporter's duty is to report fact, and if opinion is reported, the opposite side should be expressed as well.
P.S. I've seen two references so far to 'a 16-page document issued today' but the daily BOLLETTINO from the Vatican only contains the 'statement' itself. On the CDF site under 'Dichiarazioni dottrinali' - there's where one sees an"'ARTICOLO DI COMMENTO AI 'RESPONSA'" , but ONLY IN ITALIAN. And it's not 15 pages or anywhere near that - its 4-1/4 pages of text on a WORD printout and a page and a half of references. Don't have time to read it just yet.
Here's the AFP story:
Vatican reiterates hardline
on primacy of Catholic Church
The Vatican set itself on a collision course with other Christian faiths Tuesday, reaffirming the primacy of the Roman Catholic Church in a corrective document designed to clear up recent "erroneous" doctrine.
The document's central claim that the Catholic Church is "the one true Church of Christ", is likely to revive a debate which has dogged the Vatican's dealings with other Christian faiths for decades.
Other Christian faiths "lack elements considered essential to the Catholic Church," it said.
The 16-page text - released by the Vatican's doctrinal watchdog the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, and ratified by the pope - "constitutes a clear reaffirmation of Catholic doctrine on the Church," according to an attached commentary.
Basically
a restatement of bedrock Vatican doctrine [BTW, not 'Vatican doctrine' - the Vatican is not a religion! - it's CATHOLIC DOCTRINE, thank you] , its release was prompted "because some contemporary theological research has been erroneous or ambiguous," the commentary said.
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So if it's a 'restatement of bedrock...doctrine', how is the Church 'setting itself for a collision course'???? The metaphor's is all wrong, to begin with, because the one and only course has been the Church's - and then, in 1054, the Orthodox veered off, and in the 16th-17th centuries, the Protestants went and started their own paths - and have continued to diverge increasingly among gthemselves since then. The ecumenical movement was never intended to homogenize all existing Christian 'confessions' into a consensus one-size-fits-all artificial faith - the idea is to bring them all back to the one true faith.
Meanwhile, here is how Catholic News Service reported the CDF statement:
Vatican congregation reaffirms truth,
oneness of Catholic Church
By John Thavis
Catholic News Service
VATICAN CITY, July 10 (CNS) -- In a brief document, the Vatican's doctrinal congregation reaffirmed that the Catholic Church is the one, true Church, even if elements of truth can be found in separated Churches and communities.
Touching an ecumenical sore point, the document said some of the separated Christian communities, such as Protestant communities, should not properly be called "Churches" according to Catholic doctrine because of major differences over the ordained priesthood and the Eucharist.
The Vatican released the text July 10. Titled "Responses to Some Questions Regarding Certain Aspects of the Doctrine on the Church," it was signed by U.S. Cardinal William J. Levada, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, and approved by Pope Benedict XVI before publication.
In a cover letter, Cardinal Levada asked the world's bishops to do all they can to promote and present the document to the wider public.
The text was the latest chapter in a long-simmering discussion on what the Second Vatican Council intended when it stated that the Church founded by Christ "subsists in the Catholic Church," but that elements of "sanctification and truth" are found outside the Catholic Church's visible confines.
The related discussion over the term "Churches" surfaced publicly in 2000, when the doctrinal congregation - then headed by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict - said the term "sister Churches" was being misused in ecumenical dialogue.
In a format of five questions and answers, the new document stated that Vatican II did not change Catholic doctrine on the Church. It said use of the phrase "subsists in" was intended to show that all the elements instituted by Christ endure in the Catholic Church.
The sanctifying elements that exist outside the structure of the Catholic Church can be used as instruments of salvation, but their value derives from the "fullness of grace and truth which has been entrusted to the Catholic Church," it said, quoting from Vatican II's "Decree on Ecumenism."
The text said the Second Vatican Council used the term "Church" in reference to Orthodox Churches because, although separated from the Catholic Church, they have preserved apostolic succession, the ordained priesthood and the Eucharist. Nevertheless, they "lack something in their condition as particular Churches" because they are not in union with the Pope, it said.
The Christian communities born out of the Reformation, on the other hand, do not enjoy apostolic succession - the unbroken succession of bishops going back to St. Peter - and therefore "cannot, according to Catholic doctrine, be called 'Churches' in the proper sense," it said.
In his cover letter, Cardinal Levada said the document came in response to critical reactions to the teaching of
Dominus Iesus, another doctrinal congregation document of 2000, which said the Catholic Church was necessary for salvation, and to ongoing confusion over interpretations of the phrase "subsists in."
An authoritative commentary published July 10 in the Vatican newspaper,
L'Osservatore Romano, said the congregation had acted to protect the unity and uniqueness of the Church. The document, the commentary said, took aim at the notion that the "Church of Christ" was "the sum total of the Churches or the ecclesial communities" or that it exists only as a future goal.
"If this were the case, the Church of Christ would not any longer exist in history, or would exist only in some ideal form emerging either through some future convergence or through the reunification of the diverse sister churches," it said.
What Vatican II intended was to recognize ecclesial elements in non-Catholic communities, it said.
"It does not follow that the identification of the Church of Christ with the Catholic Church no longer holds, nor that outside the Catholic Church there is a complete absence of ecclesial elements, a 'Churchless void,'" it said.
The council's wording does not signify that the Catholic Church has ceased to regard itself as the one true Church of Christ but that it recognizes that true ecclesial realities exist beyond its own visible boundaries, it said.
Regarding the doctrinal congregation's insistence that communities originating from the Reformation are not Churches, the article said: "Despite the fact that this teaching has created no little distress in the communities concerned and even among some Catholics, it is nevertheless difficult to see how the title of 'Church' could possibly be attributed to them, given that they do not accept the theological notion of the Church in the Catholic sense and that they lack elements considered essential to the Catholic Church."
The commentary said that, at first glance, Catholic ecumenism might seem somewhat paradoxical, because it holds that the Catholic Church has the "fullness" of the means for salvation, but recognizes the value of elements in other Churches.
The Catholic Church's teaching, it said, is that the fullness of the Church "already exists, but still has to grow in the brethren who are not yet in full communion with it and also in its own members who are sinners."
U.S. Dominican Father J. Augustine Di Noia, undersecretary of the doctrinal congregation, said the document does not call into question Pope Benedict's pledge to work for ecumenical progress.
"The Church is not backtracking on its ecumenical commitment. But ... it is fundamental to any kind of dialogue that the participants are clear about their own identity," he told Vatican Radio.
Father Di Noia said the document touches on a very important experiential point: that when people go into a Catholic Church and participate in Mass, the sacraments and everything else that goes on there, they will find "everything that Christ intended the Church to be."