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Chickadee
Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:54 PM
The more I hear about Chancellor Merkel, the more I like her.
TERESA BENEDETTA
Friday, September 29, 2006 2:26 AM
VIPER IN THE VATICAN
I am almost sorry for the Society of Jesus (otherwise known as the Jesuits) which seems to have an endless supply of high-profile dissident Catholic priests.

Latest bedbug to come out of the woodwork is someone I thought irredeemably despicable when I first read something he wrote for a Turkish magazine just days after the Regensburg lecture. It made me so nauseous I did not even think of sharing it here because people with resources would have found out for themselves, anyway. Some of the blogs were boiling mad.

I admit I never heard about the man before that and I know little more of him now. I can only judge by what he has written, said and done since September 12, 2006, and I do not see anything positive one can say about him. I am posting this now not out of masochism but so we know who the Pope's enemies are.

The man is not only despicable, he's an outright traitor, lying cozily in bed with the 'enemy' (so to speak) while he vents his contempt on Pope Benedict. And if I thought what he wrote for the Turkish magazine was outrageous, read what Magdi Allam has now found out about about this viper walking around in priest's robes.

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If the West decides
to censor itself...

by Magdi Allam


I was left dumbdounded to discover Tuesday night within a site called www.islam-online.net, which is linked to an Islamic preacher of hate, Youssef Qaradawi, that Jesuit Fr. Thomas Michel was directly responding to visitors on the site.

Michel was for 13 years head of the Office for Islam in the Vatican's Council for Inter-Religious Dialog.

And my shock became total when I read his clear condemnation of Benedict XVI, to wit:

"We Christians owe apologies to Muslims."

"The Pope could have referred to the Crusades, if he wanted to criticize the violence inspired by religion, without offending others."

"The Pope has not apologized but has been self-justifying. I expect an apology that is clear and direct."

This man was John Paul II's most influential collaborator, from 1981-1004, in his policy of reconciliation and opening to Islam! [So that's why we are where we are today vis-a-vis Islam!]

Today, he is still a Vatican consultant, in addition to which he is the secretary for inter-religious dialog in the Jesuit order, and of the federation of Asian bishops conferences.

What is a Catholic priest of his 'stature' doing with someone like Qaradawi who preaches the defeat of Christianity, the extinction of western civilization, the destruction of Israel and eternal damnation to the Jews; who exalts and legitimizes Palestinian suicide terrorism and the assassination of Westerners in Iraq and Afghanistan?

From Fr. Michel's responses to site visitors, one senses an anxious effort to pander to the disciples of Qaradawi, sharing their unappealable condemnation of Benedict XVI:

"The text of the discourse was written by the Pope himself. They are his personal opinions. I do not doubt that there are some in the Vatican who think like him, but there many more who disagree."

"I think that the reference to someone misinformed and prejudiced like Manuel Paleologos was a lack of respect." [That's what I call total empathy with the rabble rousers and hatemongers!]

"The Pope should have better advisers, who could have explained to him that those words would destroy years of trust and openness between Christians and Muslims." [Oh yeah, like the Pope were a snotty schoolboy who understands nothing unless it is spelled out for him in black and white!]

In another response, Michel answered:
"I agree with you. Freedom of expression must be linked to the responsibility of not defaming the prophets or the faithful of another religion."

He goes on to affirm the goodness of Islam:
"I think the Western media are unjustly obsessed with Islam. I think that the faithful of all religions, including Christians, should be indebted to Muslims for having raised the issues of God and faith in our secularized society." [Really? Gee, thanks for informing us!]}

Michel sustains the thesis of terrorism that is reactive, predictable and in some way justifiable.

"I don't think the pope's statements have been wise at all. I hope they do not feed the violence and that Muslims will accept his excuses and pardon him." [That's not called charity, Father Michel, that's condescension, as in 'Poor little sinner - he's so miserable, let him go!']

These are criticisms of the Pope more explicit and more open but not less significant than those expressed by Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini (another Jesuit) and the bishop of Algiers, Henri Teissier (might he be Jesuit, too?) the day after the Pope's lecture in Regensburg on Sept. 12.

This all simply means that there is a second front which is lurking right near the Pope - that of the pastors of the Church who should owe him absolute loyalty in questions of dogma, but in the new 'holy war' unleashed by the Muslims, seem to be more concerned about not antagonizing the preachers of hate.

Fr. Michel is the emblem of Islamic 'correctness' in the very heart of the Church. This is a new philosophy of life that would call on the West to censor its own freedom of expression for fear of Islamic reaction.

This was demonstrated recently by the decision of Berlin's Deutsche Oper to cancel the Mozart opera Idomeneo from its program for the season, following a decision in Geneva not to stage Voltaire's 'Mohammed' and in London not to stage Christopher Marlowe's "Tamerlane the Great."

But even more concerning is the critical - if not downright hostile - reaction by the 'authoritative' press toward the Pope.

If my positions should coincide with those of Bin Laden, the Muslim Brotherhood, and Iran's Islamo-Nazi regime, then I would immediately realize that I must be mistaken!

But obviously there is a part of the West that prefers to rage against itself instead of defending their own civilization now threatened by Islamic extremism. [Like the Gray Lady of Times Square aka the New York Times that has now been reduced to an ignominiously pale, thin-blooded and cowering circus midget!]

In Italy, are we to wait until Dante's Divina Commedia is banned before we wake up from our torpor?

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And here is what Michel wrote for a Turkish magazine that came out September 18 (which means that in order to make the magazine's printing deadline, Michel went to work on his hatchet job almost as soon as the Pope had spoken in Regensburg!).

This is from an account by Gerald O'Connell which appeared on
speroforum.com on September 19. Mr. O'Connell is described on the site as a Vatican correspondent for UCA (sic) and other news agencies.



Jesuit Father Tom Michel, who served on the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue From 1981 to 1994 as the Vatican's top expert on Islam, writing in the Turkish political journal Yeni Asya this week said "the deeper question is, why did the pope say what he did in Regensburg?"

Father Michel, a member of the Indonesia Jesuit province, revealed that he was contacted in recent days by many Muslims, as well as Christian bishops, diplomats and journalists, who asked him: How could this have happened? Was there no one to urge the pope to change his text? How can it be prevented from happening again?

One of his "most useful tasks" while serving on the pontifical council, he said, "was to look over the late Pope John Paul II's speeches to Muslims to see if there was anything that might be considered offensive in them, and if there was something of that nature, to propose changes for the Pope."

He recalled that "Pope John Paul II was very conscientious lest he accidentally say something offensive or disrespectful to Muslims or to the followers of other religions." [Whereas Benedict couldn't care less - is what he is saying.]

On the small number of occasions that Father Michel detected problems in papal texts, "the Pope always corrected those questionable phrases before delivering the talk." As a result, "there was never a controversy like we are experiencing today." [And now, look what you've done, Ratzinger! - you've placed us all in danger!]

While "every pope has his own style," John Paul II "was always ready to make good use of his Vatican staff," Father Michel said. "My feeling is that a mistake of the order we saw last week in Regensburg would not have been possible with that pope," he added. [But with this Pope, expect all kinds of mishaps!]

Father Michel also pointed out that John Paul II "had trained scholars in Islamic studies on his staff," citing Archbishop Michael Fitzgerald as well as himself. [Whereas Benedict has no one, and does not know one whit about Islam himself!]

Archbishop Fitzgerald was president of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue until Pope Benedict reassigned him earlier this year as nuncio to Egypt and the Arab League.

"With Archbishop Fitzgerald's departure, there remains no one in the Vatican who is properly trained in Islamic faith practice and tradition and the lack becomes glaringly evident on occasions like that of the Regensburg address," Father Michel wrote. [Fitzgerald and I are the only ones qualified.

"Had the Pope's talk been reviewed and controlled by any competent staff person, they would immediately have told the Pope that the citation of Manuel II Paleologus, which was in fact marginal to the Pope's main point, should not be included in the speech," the Jesuit scholar stated. [Marginal? It was his take-off point!]

The Byzantine emperor, he pointed out, "was not a Christian theologian, nor a scholar knowledgeable on Islamic matters, nor a peacemaker, and since he was writing more than seven centuries ago, his observations have more historical than practical relevance for today." [And this is a scholar saying this?]

[Of course, Michel totally misses the point that 'the erudite emperor and his equally learned Muslim interlocutor' were having this civilized discussion about Islam and Christianity while the emperor's capital was under siege by Muslim armies - i.e., a reasoned dialog on faith and reason in the midst of a war. I think this context had a lot to do with why the Pope chose to cite the incident!]

Some observers say "the Pope did not intend to offend Muslims," Father Michel noted. He too believes this, but it is "beside the point," he said.

"Most of the time when we offend others, we do not intend to do so," he explained. "Rather, we do so because of ignorance or lack of sensitivity [Poor Benedict! So ignorant and insensitive!."]

For this reason, "it is also proper for the Pope to ask forgiveness for his offensive remarks [He, in fact, believes the Pope was offensive! ] even though, as I believe, he did not intend to offend." [Thanks for the condescension.]!]

Pope Benedict "offered that apology clearly and formally" [He did?] on Sunday Sept. 17, Father Michel said. "I pray that Muslims will be generous and extend forgiveness."
[If on Sept, 17, Michel thought the Pope had already 'apologized' 'clearly and formally', why was he saying to his online interlocutors one week later that he was still 'waiting for a clear and direct apology?]

The priest concluded his article with a call to Christians and Muslims alike, especially religious leaders, heads of nations, members of the diplomatic corps, professors and journalists.

He asked them "to urge the new Vatican Secretary of State, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, to make sure than any future statements about Islam or other religions be reviewed, and if need be, revised by competently trained persons, so that, in the case of Islam, every expression by Catholic leaders reflect the directive of the Second Vatican Council that 'the Catholic Church should show respect and esteem for Muslims.'"

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The entire subtext of this sanctimonious, self-serving piece is: "None of you in the Vatican today know any better. From the Pope down, you are all cretins. How different things would be if I were still there!"

Someone in the Italian forum commented that one Michel was as poisonous to the Church as a hundred Milingos
!

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PhoenixRising
Friday, September 29, 2006 2:33 AM
Is there a reason why these Jesuits are acting this way? That guy is a snake. He needs to be tossed out. He's a coward and a traitor.


TERESA BENEDETTA
Friday, September 29, 2006 3:49 PM
Vatican envoys urged
to work for freedom


VATICAN CITY, Sept. 29, 2006 (AP) - The Vatican's new secretary of state urged diplomats Friday to work for religious freedom everywhere, touching on a sensitive issue between the Holy See and some countries, including Muslim ones, where people are not allowed to worship freely.

Cardinal Tarciso Bertone, who took over as the Vatican's No. 2 official earlier this month, was meeting Friday with diplomats.

"We need to have a universal commitment in favor of the most disenfranchised on the planet, the poorest people, those who often look in vain for a way to make a living for themselves and their families," Bertone said, speaking in French.

"Dignity, freedom and the unconditional respect of the fundamental rights of all human beings — especially their freedom of conscience and religion — must be among our primary preoccupation."

In a meeting Monday with Muslim diplomats, Benedict XVI cited a 1985 statement by Pope John Paul II during a visit to Morocco that "respect and dialogue require reciprocity in all spheres," particularly religious freedom.

This is a major issue for the Vatican in Saudi Arabia and several other countries where non-Muslims cannot worship openly. It also has been an issue with some countries that are not Muslim, including China.

Benedict received Muslim ambassadors to the Holy See at the summer palace as part of his efforts to try to put to rest the protests over his remarks about Islam.


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TERESA BENEDETTA
Friday, September 29, 2006 4:24 PM
PATRIARCH OF CONSTANTINOPLE AWAITS POPE'S VISIT
Josie in the main forum shares this item from Il Giornale today, in which Vatican correspondent Andrea Tornielli reports from Istanbul. Here is a translation.
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Patriarch Bartholomew I:
'Let us dialog with Islam
but they must respect us'

By Andrea Tornielli

ISTANBUL - "The Pope's trip to Turkey is even more important after what followed his lecture in Regensburg," said Bartholomew I, ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople, who received a group of Italian journalists in Phanar, his seat, two months before a planned visit by Benedict XVI.

He spoke about preparations for the papal visit, of the current controversy with Islam, of the rights of religious minorities, and of Turkey's application to join the European Union.

Bartholomew I received his guests at this modest seat of Oriental Catholicism, where the muezzin's prayer call is amplified at full volume from a nearby mosque.

The 76-year-old Patriarch enjoys the primacy of honor among all the Orthodox Churches, but in his country, he is only a private citizen.

Bartholomew I affirmed that the arrival of Papa Ratzinger - notwithstanding the negative voices heard in Turkey the past few days - "will be an occasion to cultivate dialog" with Muslims.

He said he was sure that the government of Turkey would know how to guarantee the safety of its guest.

Here are his answers to some questions:

Holiness, what do you think of the events that followed the Pope's lecture in Regensburg?
"What he said was well-known to everybody. We do not wish at all for tensions with believers of other religions, and I am sure Benedict XVI had absolutely no intention of offending Islam and our Muslim brothers and sisters. Everything else he said himself when he addressed the ambassadors of Muslim states
a few days ago.

"The Pope has sought to heal the breach. Of course, even here in Turkey. some negative signs continue to emerge. But the Turkish people are hospitable - they await the Pope's visit with joy. It is not the first time they would be welcoming a Pope. Paul VI and John Paul II were both here.

"If there are tensions now after the Regensburg lecture, it is even more reason to justify the trip. It will be an occasion to show friendship, clear away misunderstandings, and underscore the need for a dialog among the three monotheistic religions."

Would you continue to favor Turkey's entry into the European Union?
"We have always been in favor of it. Of course, there are problems, and some problems concern us."

[Among the conditions that the EU has made for Turkey to join the Union is the juridical recognition of the Patriarchate of Constantinople.]

Bartholomew continued:
"We hope that these problems will be resolved during this process of application. Unfortunately, it is true that religious freedoms are restricted here. Since 1971, they have closed our theological school on Chalki island, which had been functioning since 1844. Its closure by the government is a violation of the treaty of Lausanne, a violation of religious freedom and human rights.

"The ecumenical Patriarchate is the primate Orthodox seat in the world but it is also the only one that has its own theological school for the formation of its clergy. We have also lost many buildings which belong to us, and we are not allowed to elect a Patriarch who is not a Turkish citizen."

Do you think the Pope's visit will help you?
"The Pope has spoken several times about the need to respect the rights of religious minorities. If he says it here, it will not be the first time. These are principles that are valid for all peoples. Minorities do not constitute any threat to the countries where they live - they are a cultural wealth.

"Together, Christians of all confessions and Jews make up only 0.01% of the Turkish population. We do not want anything more than just our human rights. When the Turkish Republic was proclaimed back in the 1920s, Orthodox Christians in the country numbered 180,000. Today we have less than 5,000. Ask yourselves why."

Fears have been expressed about the Pope's safety during the trip.
"I am convinced that the Turkish state will take all the necessary measures to protect such a high-ranking guest."



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Chickadee
Friday, September 29, 2006 4:33 PM
Father Michel's piece is one reason I have so little patience these days with the dissenters in the Church. He, along with Cardinal Martini, should be embarrassed for their multiculturalist outlook, which is basically unChristian. If they cannot unequivocally affirm the truth of Catholicism above all other religions, they should have the backbone to leave the Catholic Church.

That many of them are Jesuits does not surprise me, at all. For the last forty years the Jesuits have gone out of their way to hobble and distort the mission of the Catholic Church.

There does seem to be a special animus toward Pope Benedict, however. Cardinal Martini has had it in for him even before Pope Benedict was elected. Recently, Martini spoke out against the Catholic Church's belief in the absolute sanctity of the beginning of life, trying to parse it with statistics and scientific minutiae. This use of statistics goes back to another Jesuit, Fr. Bernard Lonergan, one of the founders of transcendetal Thomism, which has sought to relativize the notion of objective reality and the core tenets of Catholicism. Martini is just one of Lonergan's fellow travellers.

As to the Jesuit order itself, remember that Pope Clement XIV suppressed them in 1770 (lasted until 1773). I wouldn't shed any tears if Pope Benedict did the same thing.
Chickadee
Friday, September 29, 2006 6:11 PM
Teresa,

I put my post on John Allen in the wrong place (obviously). It should have gone under "News about Benedict." I am sorry. Can you move it there?

Chickadee
TERESA BENEDETTA
Friday, September 29, 2006 8:13 PM
Chickadee... I will move your post here, and also a new member's post about an upcoming BBC hatchet - and apprently misinformed - job on the Church to either News about the Church, or a sub-thread we opened months ago to present facts to counter loose accusations made against Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger in conection with priests committing sexual offenses.

EVERYONE...Please remember, the English section is only a thread itself in the whole forum, so we cannot afford to have too many sub-threads, otherwise they won't appear on Page 1 of the board and new members will not know what there is already. When posting, press the button RISPONDI to post, not NUOVA, which would open a new thread. Thank you.

P.S. I just found out that as moderator of this section, I am enabled to eliminate inadvertent threads, so the two sub-threads mentioned above have been taken out, and the appropriate transfers made.

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TERESA BENEDETTA
Friday, September 29, 2006 8:54 PM
JOHN ALLEN'S TAKE ON POPE BENEDICT & RECIPROCITY
Here is Chickadee's Post #34, posted at 18:09, 9/29/06, (remember this forum runs on Italian time!) which inadvertently started a new sub-thread which will be eliminated.
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Here is the part of his column that deals with this issue. My comments are below.

Pope Benedict's damage control; Milingo thanks Benedict for his 'caring concern about us'; Notes on: Orthodox-Catholic dialogue, Reader response, Ministry to lesbians and gays

By JOHN L. ALLEN JR.


Benedict XVI's carefully choreographed Sept. 25 meeting with ambassadors from 22 Muslim nations accredited to the Holy See (only Sudan was absent), along with representatives from Italy's tiny but growing Muslim community, was designed to turn a corner on the controversies following his Sept. 12 comments on Islam in Regensburg, Germany.

The encounter was carried live both on CNN and its counterpart in the Arab world, Al-Jazeerah.

It seems to have been partially successful. The ambassadors applauded as the pope entered the room, and beamed as he moved down the reception line afterwards. Later, several Muslim participants told the media that they believe the dialogue is "back on track."

"Today begins a new phase," said Abdellah Redouane, secretary general of the Islamic Cultural Center of Rome.

"We overcame the tensions of recent days, and now we must intensify initiatives, on the part of both Christians and Muslims, that favor dialogue among the two great religions, which is important for the serenity of the entire world," Redouane said.

Not everyone, of course, was ready to forgive and forget.

Just 24 hours later, the 56-nation Organization of the Islamic Conference, meeting in New York on the margins of a session of the United Nations, adopted a resolution calling upon Benedict "to retract or to correct" his Sept. 12 comments.

In Egypt, officials of the Al-Azhar mosque and university threw cold water upon the idea of inviting Benedict XVI to deliver a lecture, and a spokesperson told Italian media that the pope's comments to date "are not the clear apology that Al-Azhar has requested, but merely a way of placating [Muslim] anger."

Nevertheless, the wide popular outrage across the Muslim world seems to be ebbing, and many commentators have said it's time to move on. The question now is, move on to what?

Those looking for clues would do well to read Benedict's Sept. 25 address carefully. The pope referred to Vatican II twice and John Paul II twice, an obvious way of signaling that he has no intention of "turning back the clock" on five decades of progress in Christian-Muslim relations.

Yet it's also instructive that his lone citation of John Paul II invoked the question of reciprocity, which is Vatican argot for the demand that Christians and other minorities in Muslim nations should enjoy the same religious freedom that Muslims have in the West.

Benedict pointedly quoted John Paul II's 1985 address to Muslim youth in Casablanca: "Respect and dialogue require reciprocity in all spheres, especially in that which concerns basic freedoms, more particularly religious freedom."

I've written an extensive story on the reciprocity question, based on interviews with scores of Muslim and Christian experts, which will appear in Oct. 13 edition of the National Catholic Reporter. Suffice it to say that most observers on both sides seemed to agree that if Benedict wants to push this issue constructively, six points are important:

-Humbly acknowledge that Christians have had, and in some places continue to have, their own struggles with religious freedom;
-Don't make reciprocity seem like special pleading for Christians, but rather a principled stand in favor of freedom for all religions;
-Be clear that this is not a crusade against Islam, since there are other nations, such as Hindu-dominated India and Buddhist-dominated Sri Lanka, where religious freedom is also a serious issue;
-Recall areas where Catholics and Muslims are natural allies, such as resistance to secularization;
-Speak directly to the Muslim governments which are responsible for repressive policies, not just to clerics and theologians in abstract theological language;
-Present religious freedom as part of a broader message about civil and political liberties across the board.

Readers interested in the details will want to see the NCR story.

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Now here is my "take" on what John Allen reported.

I have never been of the opinion that John Allen was dispassionate or disinterested in his reporting. Indeed, he admits as much. Before the conclave, Allen published a biography of Cardinal Ratzinger that, if the Cardinal had not been a public figure, he could have sued Allen for libel.

Since then, Allen claims to have had a "conversion" toward a more fair presentation of Benedict XVI's views and actions. However, I will bet you that the people Allen interviewed for this piece on reciprocity were the usual suspects: liberal multiculturalists who were "soft" on Islam and the activities of the jihadists.

The points Allen suggests Benedict XVI consider are, for the most part, not within the Pope's purview. He cannot advocate for any religion other than his own, although he can advocate for a general sort of religious tolerance across the board.

The notion that Christians still have their own struggles with religious freedom (point 1) is a recommendation I would like to see elaborated. Which Christians and in which venues? We cannot continually go down memory lane and apologize over and over again for actions of the past.

That the Pope should "humbly acknowledge" them (Allen's words) is another indication that the people he interviewed are not of Pope Benedict's circle, but are those, like Father Michel or Madigan, who think we should put ourselves in a posture of pleading before Islam. Allen promises a full report on October 13 and I, for one, will follow it up.

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Teresa's comment:
Well, let us wait and see what Allen's opinion round-up will look like. To give him his due, he has been more than fair - in fact, he has been mostly favorable and even laudatory - to Benedict XVI since he became Pope.

As for the six points he mentioned, I too would like clarification on Point #1. What struggles? Where?

If the critics of the Church mean the Crusades again, then they would do well to review history [see ODDS AND ENDS for a good brief review of the Crusades].

It seems that except for some initial masssacres of non-Christians (not countrywide but confined to the city where the particular Crusade was fought) that were an excess of zeal on the part of the early Crusaders - after they had won back Jerusalem the first time, for example - what the Crusaders cared about mostly was keeping and defending any territory they had won back at such great cost (and would subsequently lose again) - not missionary work.

And remember, there were not all that many Crusaders present in the Holy Land at any given time. The armies raised by the Crusades were never large ones, not organized, nor well-equipped. They were more often than not, ragtag.

More importantly, the Crusades were not intended to impose Christianity anywhere but to reclaim Christian lands - and especially Christian shrines in the Holy Land - that had been taken over by Muslims in their successful evangelization of the Near East, and thus allow Christians in those lands or from elsewhere, free access to these shrines and presumably, freedom of worship.

The only other historical incidence of Christianity being spread 'by force' whould have been during Spain's conquest of Latin America and the Philippines. Even that was hardly wholesale war, but was usually confined to the first place the Spaniards came to where they met resistance from the locals.

These initial Spanish expeditions were necessarily small forces - smaller even than the Crusader forces, for realistically, how many men could you send in wind-driven ships halfway across the world? - whose only advantage was in possessing guns and cannon, which understandably instilled quick fear among natives who had never seen nor conceived of such weapons before. This was nothing like the armies of Mohammed himself, the succeeding Caliphs or the Ottoman Turks who openly intended to spread Islam by force over contiguous stretches of Eurasia - and managed to get to Iberia from North Africa.

I am not excusing the use of violence in any of these acts by Christians in the name of Christianity, but placing the events in context. The Spanish conquistadores were not out there primarily to spread Christianity, even if they were almost always accompanied by a small group of priests to evangelize.

They were there primarily to conquer lands for the Spanish Crown, which happened to be - at the start of the Age of Colonization - their Catholic Majesties Ferdinand and Isabella, who had just succeeded in driving the last of the Moors from Iberia! The conquistadores were naive enough to believe they could conquer the New World with a few hundred men in an expedition - and as it turned out, they did succeed to subdue a whole continent with a few hundred men at a time.

There were never really 'Christian armies marching off to war'. Even Lepanto was a battle of defense against the Muslim invader.


Now, as for the other five points mentioned by Allen, there isn't one that is not already being done by the Church and by this Pope, including Point 5 - 'speak directly to Muslim governments...' - an initiative not done before and which this Pope took last Monday, Sept. 25, by convoking the ambassadors of the Muslim states. It must be remembered that these ambassadors are 'envoys plenipotentiary' to the Holy See of the governments they represent.






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TERESA BENEDETTA
Saturday, September 30, 2006 1:13 AM
MINISTER SPEAKS BLUNTLY TO ITALIAN MUSLIMS
Emma in the main forum shares this story - surprising, to say the least, but also most welcome - from today's issue of Corriere della Sera, translated here:

Italy's Interior Minister says
threats against the Pope
are 'unacceptable"


"We should not apologize out of sheer fear of terrorism," Italy's Interior Minister Giuliano Amato told Muslim representatives directly today at a meeting on "Islam in Italy and the USA" held at the Center for American Studies in Rome.

"We must tell Muslims clearly and bluntly: it is not acceptable that there should be threats of physical violence against Christians if the Pope says something you do not agree with. Notwithstanding (Europe's) sins of colonialism, such an attitude (to opinions you do not share) only shows that you are in the obscurantist phase in which Catholics found themselves four centuries ago."

Amato's audience was composed of many important personalities considered moderate, that sector of Islam on whom the West counts for "dialog, yes, but only with those who wish to dialog," among them Mario Scialoja, an ex-ambassador who is the representative of the World Muslim League in Italy.

Speaking ahead of Amato was Bou Kanate, a Muslim from Senegal who has become an Italian entrepreneur in Monfalcone, a town in northeast Italy where Muslim immigrants have had some difficulties.

Several Muslims who have successfully integrated themselves into life and society in the United States were also among the speakers.

Because of this, Amato chose to speak openly, without hypocrisy. He took off from the reaction to the Pope's lecture in Regensburg: "We do not have to apologize to Islam just because we fear terrorist reprisal. The governments of Muslim states who are demanding an apology are those who fear they will lose elections if they don't (show themselves belligerent). They don't want an apology, they want surrender."

He goes back to the incident of the Mohammed cartoons: "For that, yes, I feel that apologies were due, but Muslims should also apologize if, in the name of Allah, someone tries to commit violence against me, because that is an offense to religion."

And further back in history, to say that if a part of the Muslim world is today in an 'obscurantist phase,' things weren't always so and he hopes things won't remain this way.

"Historically," he said, "Islam in effect brought the Enlightenment to Europe. Christianity developed it, and then the Counter-Reformation gave rise to our own 'jihad' which were the Crusades. We Christians emerged from obscurantism, but Islam fell into it, and a part of it is still there."

Seated next to Amato was his predecessor in the job, Giuseppe Pisanu, who in his own speech, focused on the dangers of ghettos within cities. He spoke of the 'open hand' towards immigrants who wished to be integrated into Italian society and of an 'strong hand' against those who violate the law.


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TERESA BENEDETTA
Saturday, September 30, 2006 1:35 AM
SOME INSIGHTS FROM A CLARIFICATION
There was another Benedict item in John Allen's ALL THINGS CATHOLIC for 9/29/06, from which Chickadee drew the excerpt posted above. Allen publishes a letter refuting some statements he made in an earlier column, but the writer also offers some insights into Benedict's actions as CDF and perhaps more relevant today, into why Archbishop Fitzgerald was sent to Cairo.
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In my Sept. 8 column, I discussed Pope Benedict's message for a gathering in Assisi marking the 20th anniversary of John Paul II's 1986 summit of religious leaders.

I mentioned some reflections on inter-religious prayer then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger published in his book Truth and Tolerance in 2003, including a critique he offered of an inter-denominational study on the subject in the 1990s with which the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue was involved. The column can be found here: ncrcafe.org/node/439

It brought the following response from John Borelli, Special Assistant to the President for Interreligious Initiatives at Georgetown University:



John Allen refers to a report of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue (PCID), resulting from a joint meeting in Bangalore, India, in 1996.

Errors and lack of clarity about this text leave wrong impressions leading to a suggestion that cannot be isolated from other critically important information.

In the first place, the Bangalore text is not a document, as Allen calls it four times. It was an interim report, "Findings of an Exploratory Consultation on Interreligious Prayer." Roman offices use document for an officially approved text, and church officials consult "documents" for official positions and policies.

When Benedict XVI criticized this report, before his election as pope, in a newly composed chapter for Truth and Tolerance (2003), he called it a "text" or "statement," never a "document." Given curial procedures, Benedict would have had to approve it for it to become one.

Benedict praised a later theological assessment of the findings as "a sound piece of work," though he called it a "document" three times, an unusual mistake, perhaps because he favored it. No process was undertaken to make either a document.

Allen underscores how Benedict distinguishes between inter-religious and multi-religious prayer although the Bangalore report made the same distinction.

Phase two of a multi-phase project, the text reported findings of the World Council of Churches and the PCID. It also asserts that interreligious prayer should not be a substitute for the regular pattern of prayer, an important point Benedict later makes, as Allen reports. These are not points of dispute, if that impression is given.

The joint consultation with the WCC in Bangalore did not aim at doctrinal agreement for churches not in full communion but for developing pastoral advice to inquiring Christians. That advice, as the text says, needs ongoing consultation.

Benedict criticized one passage on hospitality as Allen covered. What was not clear in Allen's coverage is that Benedict disagreed with something more basic in that the report insinuated a failure to demarcate between personal and impersonal understandings of God, though Benedict agreed that the report did no more than raise questions.

This distinction was part of a broader issue on the meaning of religious pluralism, related to the document Dominus Iesus, which Benedict signed in 2000 as head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, and the case against Fr. Jacques Dupuis, which his office was conducting at the same time.

The then-bishop Michael Fitzgerald, Secretary of the PCID, did not write the Bangalore report and was not "the Vatican official responsible for" it, as Allen wrote. Both are false impressions. It was co-published in the WCC Interfaith Relations journal Current Dialogue and the PCID's Pro Dialogo (1998).

Cardinal Francis Arinze was PCID President at the time, and the buck stopped at his desk on the Catholic side. Fitzgerald succeeded Arinze in 2002.

Allen then recalls that "Fitzgerald was removed from that job and sent to Cairo," leaving the impression that it was in some way partially a punishment for this report. That is a misleading, if not a false, impression.

Fitzgerald's specific views on multireligious or interreligious prayer are not evident in this report and not proved to be relevant to the change.

There are other factors for his re-assignment, not the least of which is more evident after Regensburg, that for Benedict's dialogue of civilization to work, he needs a skilled Arabist, like Fitzgerald, as Papal Nuncio to Egypt and Delegate to the Arab League, hearing what is said on the Arab street and in proximity to his friends at al-Azhar university.



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TERESA BENEDETTA
Saturday, September 30, 2006 1:41 AM
MOSCOW PATRIARCHATE BACKS BENEDICT
From Avvenire of 9/29/06, an item translated here.

Moscow Orthodox leader
calls for Muslim moderation


"Inappropriate and politicized" is how the Russian Orthodox Church characterizes the Muslim reaction to a citation in Benedict XVI's Regensburg lecture, and invites Muslims to "more balanced reactions to statements made about Islam."

This position was expressed by Ecumene Filaret Bulekov, observer of the Patriarchate of Moscow at the European Council in Strasbourg, in a signed article for the newspaper Vedemosti.

Bulekov called inappropriate "the strong reactions by many Muslims to a lecture which the Pope gave to an audience of scholars in the context of contemporary theological debate."

For Bulekov, tghe Muslim reaction was not so much "the disagreement of the representatives of a religion to a theologian expressing an opinion about another faith, as it is a politicized interpretation of a religious statement."

He adds: "The non-religious character of these protests, hostile to dialog, is revealed in the severity and aggressiveness with which they have been conducted, even if the demonstrators who mobbed the squares in front of TV cameras did not know anything about the Pope's full lecture but were acting only on the basis of incomplete and distorted information."

"Up to now," he continued, "Christians had not seen protests against their religion as violent as that shown by the Muslims to a fragment taken from a lecture by the Pope, a fragment moreover that was taken out of its context.

He ends by issuing an appeal to the Muslim world: "If you want Europe and Christianity to listen to you and understand you, then we should meet halfway along the road to a sincere dialog."

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TERESA BENEDETTA
Saturday, September 30, 2006 6:31 PM
POPE MEETS PATRIARCH OF BAGHDAD


CASTEL GANDOLFO, Sept. 30, 2006 (AP) - Pope Benedict XVI met Saturday with the Chaldean Patriarch of Baghdad, the Vatican said.

The meeting with Patriarch Emmanuel Delly took place at the pope's summer residence in Castel Gandolfo, on the hills south of Rome, and the Vatican did not release any details.

Delly has been seeking the release of a priest who was kidnapped in Baghdad, and the pope also has appealed publicly for his release.

The Rev. Hanna Saad Sirop, who is director of the Theology Department at Babel College, was abducted Aug. 15 as he left Mass celebrating the Assumption holiday in the Iraqi capital.

Christians make up just 3 percent of Iraq's 26 million people. The major Christian groups include Chaldean-Assyrians and Armenians, with small numbers of Roman Catholics.



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TERESA BENEDETTA
Saturday, September 30, 2006 7:36 PM
GERMAN BISHOPS SUPPORT THE POPE - AND THAT'S NEWS
The Italian and German services of Radio Vatican carry the following news item, but the English service as of this time is still stuck on September 29 reports! It is not right that the various language services - at least in the Vatican's five official languages - are not synchronized, and it is really very upsetting that the English service is generally almost always the last to be updated among the official languages of the Vatican.

Here is a translation of the German dispatch.

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(30 Sept.2006 - RV) German bishops are calling on the representatives of Islam to renounce violence legitimized by being committed in the name of religion.

The human right to religious freedom must also be respected unconditionally even in Muslim countries, they said, in a joint statement made at the closing of a full assembly of the German Bishops Conference.

Its president, cardinal Karl Lehmann, recalled the polemics that followed the Pope’s lecture in Regensburg: “Many have misunderstood the Holy Father, others have wanted to misunderstand him. We are thankful to Pope Benedict that he did not hesitate one moment to clarify the sense of his lecture and to clear away all misunderstanding. The Pope emphasized the vital meaning of friendly coexistence between religions and re-emphasized again the need for genuine dialog between Christianity and Islam.”

After the Pope’s clarification and his meeting with Muslim ambassadors and representatives in Italy, Lehmann added, (the insistence on) “ever-new accusations, demands or threats” must come to an end.

”The Catholic Church and many in our country and around the world – who respect and uphold the right to free expression – will not allow themselves to be intimidated. We expect Muslim authorities around the world to refrain from anything that would lead to a fresh exacerbation of the situation. Any equivocation can only be counterproductive to peace and must be avoided.”

The statement criticized the violence against Christians in Muslim countries during the past two weeks, saying also that the bishops are aware that many Muslims disapprove such acts of violence as a diefilement of their religion.

“We must expect the representatives of Islam to act unmistakably against every religious pretext given for violence and every exploitation of religion for political ends. The Christian churches know from their own history the temptation to use force, which even they have not always resisted.

"All the more reason that we hope for an honest dialog between Christianity and Islam which will serve on both sides for the ‘purification of memory’ [cfr Nostra Aetate, Art. 3) and will enable our religions to bear common witness for peace and against violence.”

Referring to the fact that Muslims in Germany enjoy religious freedom under the law, the statement said: “We expect that the inalienable human right to freedom of religion will also be respected without exception even in Muslim countries. We ask the Muslim organizations in Germany to speak up forcefully for the right to freedom of religion in their lands or origin.”

Without referring directly to the Mohammed cartoons, the cancelled opera in Berlin, or even the controversy over Madonna’s crucifixion stage act in her current tour, the statement said in conclusion:

“The abuse or denigration of religion is a misuse of freedom. There is a fragile balance between artistic license and free expression, on the one hand, and the right of religions to be respected on the other hand.

"We view with concern that, the fear of religious-motivated violence growing, not only in Germany, and can lead to direct or indirect restriction or inhibition of free expression. We are most decisively against such tendencies.

"Like wise we reject as non-culture any lack of consideration for other religions and beliefs, which opens up chasms in society and sows discord.”

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Very commendable, but why did the German bishops wait 18 days to make this statement? Sure, they issued it at the end of a meeting, but it is a statement they could have drafted and passed by consensus immediately following the outbreak of hostile reactions to the Pope's Regensburg citation, without having to meet on it!

In fairness to them, apart from the Italian bishops conference, I have not read of any other national bishops conference that has formally come to the Pope's support.

Come to think of it, very few individual cardinals, archbishops and bishops have done so. And among Catholic organizations, only Communione e Liberazione did, as far as I know.

In this respect, the Catholic world itself has been just as remiss as Western political leaders - more remiss perhaps, because the Catholic hierarchy and all these much-publicized Catholic movements should have been the first to rally around the Pope.

[The Italian service of ZENIT came out today with a summary of what Church leaders have said in support of the Pope, and it is interesting to see how few names they could cite. They start with Fr. Lombardi, who issued the first clarification for the Vatican, Cardinal Bertone who issued the second (and subsequently about it in an interview with Corriere della Sera), Cardinals Poupard, Ruini, Rouco Varela (of Madrid), Pell of Sydney, and Kasper of Germany. That's it. Oh yes. Bishop William Skylstad of the USCCB is mentioned but for 'favoring dialog with Islam' (who does not - a long as one is speaking to the right party?) rather than for outright support of the Pope.]

It says something of our generally passivity - and seeming resignation - in the face of Muslim provocation, and it's a small step from passivity and resignation to meek submission!

This is not to overlook the support shown by the faithful who show it by praying for the Pope and in their letters to editors and sign-up-for-the Pope movements, but to decry seeming inaction at the top.

Of those who have spoken up quite late in the day, one almost suspects they first wanted to find out how things would sort out becore they would commit themselves to taking sides! It may be political prudence but it is also moral cowardice and equivocation.

P.S. RadioVatican now has the full text of the message in German. Here is a translation:


Statement of the German Bishops Conference
on Current Events and Discussions



As is known, a passage from the Pope’s Regensburg lecture on Setp. 12, 2006, has caused a lot of sensation worldwide. Thus, after various opinions and statements by the Chairman and by individual bishops, the plenary assembly of the German bishops conference in Fulda has issued the following unanimous statement:

1. A brief citation in the lecture that Pope Benedict XVI gave on Sept. 12, 2006 at the University of Regensburg has been interpreted by many Muslims as an unjust judgment on their religion. Many misunderstood the Holy Father, others wanted to misunderstand him.

We are thankful to Pope Benedict that he did not hesitate one moment to clarify the sense of his lecture and to clear away all misunderstandings. Emphatically the Pope underscored the vital significance of friendly coexistence and of a genunine dialog between Christianity and Islam.

It was with the same sense that the chairman of the German bishops Conference, Cardinal Karl Lehmann, speaking in Berlin on Sept. 19, clearly expressed the position of the Catholic Chruch with respect to Islam. Many Muslims have been thankful for these explanations.

However, we issue a clear rejection to all who – even after the meeting of the Holy Father with the ambassadors of Muslim states to the Holy See – wish to further exacerbate the situation by ever-new accusations, demands or threats.

The Catholic Church and many people in our country and around the world – all who respect the right to freedom of expression and are committed to uphold it - will not let themselves be intimidated.

We expect Muslim authorities around the world to refrain from anything that could lead to a new exacerbation of the situation. Any equivocation only serves discord and must be avoided.

2. With great concern we see that the Christian minorities living in many Muslim countries have been threatened or attacked in recent days. Churches go up in flames. In Somalia a Catholic nun was murdered. Many Muslims profoundly denounce such acts of violence as we do. They consider every link between violence and religion as a misuse and defilement of their belief.

From Islam’s representatives, we must expect that they will unmistakably act against any legitimization of violence and any exploitation of religion for political ends.

The Christian Churches know from their own history the temptation to use force, which they have not always resisted. All the more, we hope for a forthright dialog between Christianity and Islam which will serves both sides for the ‘purification of memory’ (cfr Nostra aetate, 3), to enable both religions to bear common witness for peace and against violence.

3. Muslims in Germany enjoy freedom of religion here by law. We expect that the inalienable humanright to freedom of religion will also be respected without exception in Muslim countries.

We ask Islamic organizations in Germany to speak up forcefully in their countries of origin for the right to religious freedom.

We renew our desire to have a dialog with representatives of Islam over the correct understanding of freedom. Freedom of religion, which is the centerpiece of all human liberties, must be at the heart of that dialog.

4. The abuse or denigration of religion is a misuse of freedom. There is a fragile balance between artistic license and free expression, on the one hand, and the right of religious convictions to be respected on the other hand.

We view with concern that, not only in Germany, fear of religious-motivated violence is growing, which can lead to direct or indirect restriction or inhibition of free expression.

We are most decidedly against such tendencies. Likewise we reject as uncultured a lack of consideration for other religions and beliefs, which opens up chasms in society and sows discord.

Dutybound to a dialog between religions, we wish to contribute, here in Germany above all, to a good coexistence between Christians and Muslims. In this, we join Pope Benedict XVI who, in his conversation with Muslims in Cologne on August 20, 2005, called for a cooperation between religions in truth and love:

“Together we – Christians and Muslims – must meet the numerous challenges presented by our times. There is no place for apathy and inaction, still less for partisanship and sectarianism... The inter-religious and inter-cultural dialog between Christians and Muslims is a vital necessity on which a great part of our future depends.”

We hereby declare anew our readiness (for this dialog).


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Chickadee
Saturday, September 30, 2006 8:42 PM
The German bishops took 18 days because their ranks are probably filled with those who actually agreed with criticisms of the Pope's address at Regensburg. I mention Cardinal Karl Lehman specifically here.

As for other bishops' conferences, the one in the US issued a very tepid response, never rallying around the Pope, just extending one more olive branch to Islam. I wasn't surprised. The good news is the USCCB is now having to downsize, due to economic considerations. I'm hoping they will be downsized out of existence.
(mona24)
Sunday, October 01, 2006 8:17 AM
German Bishops
Only to be fair: Cardinal Lehmann issued a very profound statement about the Regensburg speech at the beginning of last week (19. September).

http://www.kath.net/detail.php?id=14703

Sadly, there were only some more German bishops supporting Benedict right away (e.g. Cardinal Meisner [Cologne], Bishop Genn [Essen], Bishop Müller [Regensburg]).

So even if it took the bishops more than 2 weeks, I would call it a (pleasant) surprise that there is such an official statement at all.
TERESA BENEDETTA
Sunday, October 01, 2006 5:31 PM
POPE ASKS PRAYERS FOR IRAQ
Pope prays
for peace in Iraq
Sun Oct 1

CASTEL GANDOLFO, Italy (AP) - Pope Benedict XVI on Sunday encouraged Christians and Muslims in Iraq to continue their centuries-old brotherly ties as he prayed for peace and harmony in the violence-wracked country.

The pope told pilgrims at his summer residence in Castel Gandolfo that he had "the joy" on Saturday of meeting with the Chaldean patriarch of Baghdad, Emmanuel III Delly.

Benedict said that the patriarch briefed him on "the tragic reality that must be faced daily by the dear population of Iraq, where Christians and Muslims live together for 14 centuries as children of the same land."

"I hope that these ties of brotherhood between them do not slacken, while, with sentiments of my spiritual closeness, I invite all to join me in asking Almighty God for the gift of peace and of harmony for that martyred country," Benedict said during his traditional Sunday appearance to give faithful his blessing.
... [Here the usual mentionof the Pope's Regensburg lecture and the uproar that followed]

Dellay, the Chaldean patriarch of Baghdad, has been seeking the release of a priest who was kidnapped in Baghdad.

The Rev. Hanna Saad Sirop, who is director of the Theology Department at Babel College, was abducted Aug. 15 as he left Mass celebrating the Assumption holiday.

Benedict also has appealed publicly for the priest's release, although the pope made no mention of the case Sunday.

Christians make up just 3 percent of Iraq's 26 million people. The major Christian groups include Chaldean-Assyrians and Armenians, with small numbers of Roman Catholics.

The ASIANEWS account of the Angelus today:
1 October, 2006
VATICAN
Pope: Rosary for peace
and missions in the world

Benedict XVI invited families and communities to pray the Rosary throughout October, a month dedicated also to the missions, which have as their patroness St Thérèse of the Child Jesus. The pope mentioned meeting the patriarch of Baghdad and also drew attention to degraded urban suburbs.


Castel Gandolfo (AsiaNews) – The month of October is traditionally dedicated to the Rosary, that ancient Marian prayer, and to the support of Catholic missions around the world. The pope concentrated his reflection before the Angelus – the last this year at Castel Gandolfo – on these two themes.

As from Wednesday 4 October, after more than two months, he will return to the Apostolic Palace in the Vatican.

Taking his cue from the feast of the Blessed Virgin of the Most Holy Rosary on 7 October, Benedict XVI said “Our Lady” invites us to “rediscover the beauty of this prayer”.

He reacalled that "Even the “beloved John Paul II was a great apostle of the Rosary: we remember him on his knees with the rosary beads in his hands, immersed in contemplation of Christ.”

The pope added: “The rosary is a contemplative and Christ-centred prayer, inseparable from meditation of the Sacred Scripture. It is the prayer of the Christian who advances in the pilgrimage of faith, following Jesus, preceded by Mary.”

This is why Benedict XVI urged one and all to “say the Rosary this month in families, in communities and in parishes for the pope’s intentions, for the mission of the Church and for peace in the world.”

The pontiff then recalled the missionary month and World Missions Day that will be marked on 22 October.

“The Church is missionary by nature,” he said. “As the Father has sent me, so I send you” (Jn 20:21), said the resurrected Jesus to the Apostles in the Cenacle. The mission of the Church is the continuation of that of Christ: taking the love of God to all, announcing it with words and the concrete witness of charity.

"In the Message for the upcoming World Missions Day, I wanted to present charity precisely as the ‘soul of mission’. St Paul, the apostle of the Gentiles, writes: “For the love of Christ urges us on” (2 Cor 5:14).

May each Christian make these words his own, in the joyous experience of being a missionary of Love wherever Providence places him, with humility and courage, serving his neighbour without ulterior motives and drawing from prayer the strength of joyful and industrious charity (cfr Deus caritas est, 32-39)”.

The pope also cited the patroness of missions, the Carmelite St Thérèse of the Child Jesus, who John Paul II proclaimed as Doctor of the Church. “She, who indicated confident abandonment to the love of God as a ‘simple’ way to holiness, helps us to be credible witnesses of the Gospel of charity.

The Pope ended with an invocation to the Virgin:Most Holy Mary, Virgin of the Rosary and Queen of missions, lead us all to Christ the Saviour.”

After the Angelus prayer, Benedict XVI added a special request for prayers for Iraq.

“Yesterday I had the joy of meeting His Beatitude Emmanuel III Delly, Patriarch of Babylon of the Chaldeans, who told me about the tragic reality faced daily by the dear people of Iraq, where Christians and Muslims have lived together for 14 centuries as children of the same land.

"I hope these bonds of fraternity among them will not be loosened, while, with sentiments of my spiritual closeness, I invite all to unite with me in asking Almighty God for the gift of peace and harmony for that martyred land.”

The pope’s proposal was greeted by long applause from the pilgrims gathered in the palace courtyard of Castel Gandolfo.

Finally, before delivering greetings, Benedict XVI recalled World Habitat Day, called by the UN, dedicated this year to “Cities, magnets of hope”, to urbanization and the situation on suburbs, described by the pope as “one of the most serious problems that mankind of the XXI century is called to face”.

And he added: “I express my encouragement to those at local and international levels who work so that people living in degraded suburbs, may be assured of worthy conditions of life and the fulfillment of their basic needs, as well as the possibility of realizing their aspirations, especially within the family and in pacific social coexistence.”


A full translation of the Pope's Angelus message is in AUDIENCE AND ANGELUS.


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TERESA BENEDETTA
Sunday, October 01, 2006 7:59 PM
RECOGNIZING HEROES OF THE FAITH
A belated posting but still apropos. The Wallenberg Foundation was established to honor Raoul Wallenberg, a Swedish businessman turned diplomat who helped thousands of Jews escape Hitler's "Final Solution' by getting them out of Hungary under Swedish diplomatic protection. One of the main aims of the Foundation is to combat anti-Semitism anywhere in the world.
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Wallenberg Foundation Greets Benedict XVI
Meets Religious Leaders in Rome


VATICAN CITY, SEPT. 29, 2006 (Zenit.org).- A delegation of the Raoul Wallenberg Foundation, led by founder Baruj Tenembaum, greeted Benedict XVI in Rome.

The foundation, dedicated to remembering those who risked their lives to save those persecuted during the Second World War, met with the Pope after Wednesday's general audience in St. Peter's Square.

The organization presented to the Holy Father a worldwide educational campaign, named after Father Alfonso Duran, a Puerto Rican native, who promoted from Argentina "courageous actions to eradicate anti-Semitism and racial prejudices," reported the foundation.

The Pontiff also received from Tenembaum a parchment with the following inscription: "Testimony of the Raoul Wallenberg International Foundation a tribute to the memory of
o Monsignor Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli(future John XXIII), savior of thousands of Jews during World War II;
o Sister Sara Salkahazi, killed for having protected the lives of her Jewish brothers persecuted by Nazism;
o Sister Leonella Sgorbatti, killed in Somalia;
o Father Alfonso Duran, who, from Argentina, raised his voice against the aberrant crimes of Nazism when the world was silent, and
o all the numerous Catholics who were outstanding in their conduct, following the precept 'Thou shall love thy neighbor as thyself.'"

The inscription, engraved in letters of the Hebrew alphabet, covers a parchment made from the skin of sheep of the Argentine Patagonia.

The delegation of the Wallenberg Foundation, which included Abel Bomrad, Ricardo Faerman and Enrique Zanin, attended working sessions this week with Cardinal Walter Kasper, president of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity and Cardinal Paul Poupard, president of the Pontifical Council for Culture and the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue.

The foundation's representatives also met with the Chief Rabbi of Rome, Riccardo Di Segni, Sami Salem, Imam of Rome's Mosque and Franca Eckert Cohen, director of the interreligious dialogue table of Rome.

On Sept. 28, the foundation awarded the 2006 Raoul Wallenberg prize to Jesús Colina, director of ZENIT, "in recognition of the excellence of informative work placed at the service of inter-confessional dialogue and reconciliation."

The award was conferred at the headquarters of the Argentine Embassy to the Holy See.

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Maybe it's not too late for the Wallenberg Foundation to recognize the unheralded work of Pope Pius XII during World War II in behalf of Jews.

Evidence from declassified Vatican documents are starting to show the falsity and unfairness of the accusations perpetrated over the past decades against Pius XII - mainly, that by his supposed 'silence' during World War II, he and the Catholic Churc in effect sanctioned Hitler's mass extermination of the Jews.

The facts would seem to show that Pius XII, while he had to be prudent about what he said in public in order not to endanger Catholics living under the Third Reich also carried out in secret a plan to rescue Jews from the edxtermination camps, and that this plan saved thousands of Jews from the horros of teh Nazi lagers.


benefan
Monday, October 02, 2006 5:16 AM

Anti-Defamation League says conspiracy theory of Jewish-controlled Pope growing in Muslim world

New York, Sep. 29, 2006 (CNA) - A report from the Jewish Anti-Defamation League (ADL) claims that cartoons and editorials published in the Arab/Muslim world are claiming Pope Benedict XVI's comments at the University of Regensburg were part of a Jewish anti-Islamic conspiracy.

ADL National Director, Abraham Foxman, said that conspiracy theorists are claiming that, “Pope Benedict XVI is being manipulated by Jews to attack Islam.”

Foxman's ADL website shows several cartoons from Arabic newspapers which make the conspiracy claims based upon the misunderstood words of Pope Benedict in which he recently quoted a 14 th century Byzantine emperor.

The quotes of the emperor, which the Holy Father has insisted do not speak for the Church's stance on Catholic-Muslim relations, came in the middle of an argument the Pope was making for increased dialogue between the West and Islam. Several Islamic clerics and politicians, however, have only quoted portions which seem to show Pope Benedict attacking the prophet Mohammed.

In addition to the cartoons, the ADL says it has found “a growing trend in editorials and opinion-pieces in the Arab/Muslim media that claim the Pope's statements should not surprise anyone, since they are the long-lasting natural discourse of international Zionism against Islam.”

“Some maintain that after September 11 a new Rome was erected, one that aims at converting Christianity and God to Judaism under the watchful eyes of the evil American-Israeli alliance that was established by the international Zionism, which eventually seeks to enflame a full confrontation between Islam and Christianity,” the ADL press release continued.

The ADL sited Bahraini newspaper, Akhbar Al-Khalij, as the leader in publishing cartoons claiming Jewish control of the Pope and a Jewish-Christian conspiracy against Islam. But it also acknowledged, “such anti-Semitic, anti-Christian conspiracy arguments” as appearing in widespread daily newspapers, including the Egyptian Al-Gomhuriyya, the Jordanian Ar-Rai and Qatari Al-Watan.

Foxman called on Islamic religious and political leaders of good will to publicly denounce and reject these false assertions of Jewish control of the Pope and to reject violence against Christians and Christian institutions as an unacceptable form of protest. "Religious leaders have a special responsibility to show their followers that there are non-violent ways to express their opinions and disagreements," he said.
benefan
Monday, October 02, 2006 7:04 AM
BBC criticised on Pope documentary

Press Association
Monday October 2, 2006 1:03 AM
Guardian Unlimited--UK

The Catholic Church has hit back over claims that Pope Benedict XVI played a leading role in a systematic cover-up of child sex abuse by its priests.

One Archbishop labelled the BBC's Panorama documentary as unwarranted, misleading and a "deeply prejudiced attack" against the Pope.

The Most Reverend Vincent Nichols, Archbishop of Birmingham, said the Panorama programme misrepresented confidential Vatican papers to back up its claims.

Speaking on behalf of the Bishops of England and Wales, he said: "This aspect of the programme is false and entirely misleading. It is false because it misrepresents two Vatican documents and uses them quite misleadingly in order to connect the horrors of child abuse to the person of the Pope."

The documentary examined a secret document that apparently sets out a procedure for dealing with child sex abuse scandals within the Catholic Church. It claimed the document - Crimen Sollicitationis - was enforced for 20 years by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger before he became the Pope.

The 39-page document, written in 1962, apparently instructed Bishops how to deal with claims of child sex abuse. This includes an oath of secrecy, enforceable by excommunication, which critics claimed could hinder an outside investigation and prosecution.

The programme also claimed to find seven priests facing child abuse allegations living in and around the Vatican City.

Archbishop Nichols, chairman of the Catholic Office for the Protection of Children and Vulnerable Adults (COPCA), said the broadcaster should be ashamed by the standard of its journalism. He said: "Viewers will recognise only too well the sensational tactics and misleading editing of the programme, which uses old footage and undated interviews. They will know that aspects of the programme amount to a deeply prejudiced attack on a revered world religious leader. It will further undermine public confidence in Panorama."

However, the Archbishop added that the programme was a reminder of the need to work ceaselessly in the protection of children. Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor, President of the Bishops' Conference, has written to Mark Thompson, BBC director general, to protest about the programme.

A BBC spokeswoman said: "The protection of children is clearly an issue of the strongest public interest. The BBC stands by the Panorama programme and invites viewers to make up their own minds once they've seen it. The BBC has a well-defined complaints system and when we receive the letter we will respond to it."

Chickadee
Monday, October 02, 2006 11:51 AM
Anyone know how long this program has been in the works? I guess we're back to the "evil" Cardinal Ratzinger again. Of course, this is the BBC. They were the first off the mark in the Regensburg speech, with their distorted reporting.
TERESA BENEDETTA
Monday, October 02, 2006 2:22 PM
VOICES OF REASON FROM PAKISTAN
2 October, 2006
Muslims in Pakistan:
“We respect the Pope;
his speech was used”


When interviewed, Muslim clerics and scholars accused the media and “forces against peace” of using the pope’s words to sow seeds of hatred among Christians and Muslims. There were calls to dialogue and great appreciation for the explanation of Benedict XVI and his meeting with Muslim ambassadors.

Lahore (AsiaNews) – The pope’s words in Regensburg were “misunderstood by the media and forces that are against peace,” who “interpreted them in a mistaken manner on the basis of their personal desires”.

But Benedict XVI is a personality “respected by all Islam”, as revealed in his “meeting with Muslim ambassadors, which was a step towards dialogue that should be continued and taken ahead without any more useless controversies.”

This was the outcome of a survey conducted by Fr Francis Nadeeem in Pakistan. The Capuchin priest is coordinator of the National Council for Interfaith Dialogue of Pakistan, who interviewed Muslim scholars and clergymen about the controversy surrounding the pope’s speech in Regensburg and the protests that followed.

Maulana Malik Javaid Akbar Saqi, President of Tehreek-e-Wahdat-e-Islami [a group of Muslim activists of Kashmir], said: “Pope Benedict XVI clearly stated that in the ‘accused’ part of his address, he quoted the views of a historian and not his own. We might have accepted his explanation.

"Islam and Christianity teach us about of peace and tolerance. Both the religions are in a very close relation with each other and due to this binding relation we can work for the betterment of the world.

"I understand some forces are trying to create a conflict between these two religions and these people are interpreting what happened in quite a contrary way. It doesn’t suit us to express our retaliation in such a destructive manner.

"In his meeting with the ambassadors of the Muslim countries, Benedict XVI presented the teachings of Christianity in its true spirit and imparted the lesson of peace love and peace among the people of the world.”

For Muhammad Nawaz Noorani AL-Qadri, a Muslim cleric, “This matter has been propagated to the extreme. The media have tried to develop chaos in the world, especially between Islam and Christianity. The Pope has taken a glorious step by conducting a meeting with the ambassadors of Muslim countries. This is his greatness. We respect the Pope and will continue to do so.”

Abul Faheem, Pir Muhammad Ibrahim, President of the Ulema-o-Mashaikh [Pakistan Muslim League] emphasized that the quotation by the Pope “was taken from a 13th century text, and pronounced during his speech on faith. A few people tried to hide the fact that there is all there was to it: a quotation that is not in line with his personal vision.”

Sahibzada Allama Muhammad Yar Zahoori, vice-chairman of the World Islamic Council: “Whatever happened, Pope Benedict XVI clarified and immediately conducted a dialogue with Muslim ambassadors. This is highly remarkable. He has played a significant role and the meeting of the Muslim ambassadors shows their satisfaction, confidence and trust towards the role of the Pope.”

Allama Mushtaq Hussain Jafri, chairman of the World Peace and Unity Council, said “it is the need of the hour that religions of the world sit together and work for the promotion of peace and religious harmony. We should respect each other. We respect Jesus Christ and based on this, we should develop positive openings among us.”

Allama Zubair Ahmed Zaheer, President of Markazi Jamaat Ahl-e-Hadis, Pakistan, said: “The Pope holds a highly responsible and important title and he is following in the footsteps of Pope John Paul II, revealing his greatness. In this way, he could calm ‘offended’ Muslim people. In fact, peace could prevail in the world when Muslims and Christians join hands and work together.”

Ajmal Niazi, a renowned columnist, closed the survey: “The Pope occupies a significant place in the Christian world and we also consider him a spiritual leader and respect him. We always receive messages of reconciliation and affection from Him.

"His words in Regensburg were understood in a negative way and this is not a good thing. People interpreted his speech according to their personal desires, but since the Pope made it clear how things stand, there is no reason to protest.

"I suggest that Muslim religious leaders prepare a way towards dialogue and not create any sort of enmity. The Pope’s meeting with the ambassadors is a sign of friendship with the Muslim world. Therefore we should all work for dialogue.”

TERESA BENEDETTA
Monday, October 02, 2006 2:46 PM
MORE REACTION TO BBC PROGRAM

BBC hatchet job is latest media attempt to denigrate Pope Benedict,
shown here at the 9/27/06 general audience
[Photo courtesy of Caterina in the main forum]



Bishops reject Vatican abuse
cover-up allegations by BBC
By Deborah Haynes
Mon Oct 2



LONDON (Reuters) - Roman Catholic bishops in England and Wales rejected as false and misleading a BBC documentary about what it said was a cover-up of child sexual abuse under a system enforced by Pope Benedict XVI in his previous job.

Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor, head of the Catholic Church in the two countries, plans to write to Mark Thompson, director general of the BBC this week to protest about the program, aired late on Sunday.

The documentary by flagship current affairs program "Panorama" examined what it described as a secret document written in 1962 that sets out a procedure for dealing with child sex abuse within the Catholic Church.

The document, called "Crimen Sollicitationis," imposes an oath of secrecy on the child victim, the priest dealing with the allegation and any witness. Breaking that oath would result in excommunication, the BBC said.

"The procedure was intended to protect a priest's reputation until the Church had investigated, but in practice it can offer a blueprint for cover-up," the documentary said.

"The man in charge of enforcing it for 20 years was Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the man made Pope last year," reporter Colm O'Gorman said in the program "Sex Crimes and the Vatican."

Ratzinger was head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Vatican department that enforces doctrine, from

The Vatican said on Monday it was studying the transcript of the show but had no immediate comment.

The existence of the document is not new. It first surfaced publicly in 2003, when it was widely reported in the U.S. media. [And even then, few went back to the 1962 document itself, but focused on the 2001 letter sent out by Cardinal ratzinger under an Apostolic Letter sent by John Paul II to all bishops - and those who did insisted, of course, on misreading and misinterpreting the document!)

American lawyers representing alleged victims of sexual abuse by priests at the time used it in law suits against some American dioceses.

The U.S. scandal, in which priests known to have abused minors were transferred from parish to parish instead of being sacked, was centered in Boston.

The scandal led to the resignation of the city's archbishop, Cardinal Bernard Law, in December 2002.

Responding to the documentary, Archbishop Vincent Nichols of
Birmingham, central England, said the BBC should be "ashamed of the standard of the journalism used to create this unwarranted attack on Pope Benedict XVI."

He said there were two strands to the documentary, one highlighting cases of child abuse by priests, a crime he said the Catholic Church dealt with seriously, carefully and with transparency, the other attacking the Vatican.

"This aspect of the program is false and entirely misleading," Nichols said in a statement endorsed by the bishops of England and Wales.

"It is false because it misrepresents two Vatican documents and uses them quite misleadingly in order to connect the horrors of child abuse to the person of the Pope."

The second document cited by the BBC was a 2001 update of the original text.

The public broadcaster defended its documentary.

"The protection of children is clearly an issue of the strongest public interest," it said in a statement, responding to the bishops' criticism. "The BBC stands by tonight's 'Panorama' program, and invites viewers to make up their own minds once they've seen it."

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Why don't the people who report these stories go directly to the two documents in question and see for themselves, instead of merely talking to the BBC on the one hand and to the bishops on the other?

Please see our subthread 'LAWSUIT VS RATZINGER' for the English translation of these documents. We opened that thread months ago precisely to have an available resource when these ignorant - or more correctly, deliberately misleading - interpretations are made of documents pertaining to internal Church procedures for dealing with priests accused of sex offenses - procedures which do not preclude the civilian processes of justice in any way.

What we had at that time was the Apostolic Letter of 2001 by John Paul II which told bishops about the update to the 1962 document issued before Vatican-II, before John Paul's time, and surely way before the 'epidemic' of sex offenses by priests became public news in the late 1990s!

By the way, regular Forum viewers will remember that FanofBenedictXVI alerted us to this Panorama hatchet job last Friday in her first post.

For those of us who may need more reassurance, she also cited an August 2003 article by JOHN ALLEN in the National Catholic Reporter which may be found online on
www.nationalcatholicreporter.org/update/bn080703.htm
about what this 1962 document was all about. For convenience, I am posting it here.


1962 document orders secrecy in sex cases:
Many bishops were unaware
obscure missive was in their archives

By JOHN L. ALLEN JR.
Rome, August 7, 2003


A 1962 Vatican document ordering secrecy in cases of sexual misconduct by priests is not, according to canon lawyers, a "smoking gun" providing evidence of a cover-up of sex abuse orchestrated by Rome.

Civil attorneys handling lawsuits against the Catholic church have pointed to the document as evidence of obstruction of justice.

For one thing, canon lawyers say, the document was so obscure that few bishops had ever heard of it. For another, they say, secrecy in canonical procedures should not be confused with refusal to cooperate with civil authorities. The 1962 document would not have tied the hands of a bishop, or anyone else, who wanted to report a crime by a priest to the police.

The 39-page document, titled in Latin Crimen Sollicitationis, was issued in March 1962 by the Holy Office (today the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith).

It established a procedure for canonical cases in which priests were accused of abusing the confessional to sexually proposition penitents.

Four concluding paragraphs extend the procedure to the crimen pessimum, or "worst crime," meaning homosexual acts contrary to a priest's celibate commitment. The document was not designed to address sexual abuse of minors, but would include many such violations.

Paragraph 11 of the document stipulates that such cases are covered by the "secret of the Holy Office," today known as pontifical secrecy, the strictest form of secrecy in church law. Excommunication is prescribed for anyone who violates this secrecy.

The document was itself to be kept secret. Instructions on Page One direct that it be stored in the secret archives of each diocese, and that it not be published or commented upon.

Msgr. Thomas Green, canon law expert at The Catholic University of America, told NCR Aug. 4 that unlike most church legislation, Crimen Sollicitationis was never published in the official Vatican bulletin Acta Apostolicae Sedis.

The document recently came to light because it was referenced in a footnote to a May 18, 2002, letter from Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, head of the Vatican's doctrinal congregation, to the bishops of the world regarding new procedures for sex abuse cases.

Boston attorney Carmen L. Durso sent a copy of the document July 28 to U.S. Attorney Michael J. Sullivan, arguing that it may prove the Catholic church has been obstructing justice.

"This document may provide the link in the thinking of all of those who hid the truth for so many years," Durso said, as quoted by the July 29 Worcester Telegram and Gazette. "The constant admonitions that information regarding accusations against priests are to be deemed 'a secret of the Holy Office' may explain, but most certainly do not justify, their actions," Durso told the federal attorney.

Oblate Fr. Francis Morrisey of St. Paul University in Ottawa, Canada, told NCR Aug. 4 that he doubts the document had such an effect, because few bishops knew Crimen Sollicitationis even existed.

"The document was so secret that it couldn't even be mentioned," Morrisey said. "I'm inclined to believe that most bishops were unaware of its existence and contents until a situation arose, and so it never crossed their mind to take cover under this text."

Crimen Sollicitationis dealt with canonical cases against a priest that could lead to removal from ministry or expulsion from the priesthood. Its imposition of secrecy thus concerned the church's internal disciplinary process. It did not, according to canonical experts, prevent a bishop or anyone else from reporting a crime against a minor to the civil authorities.

"Of course, a bishop couldn't use this document to cover up denunciation of an act of sexual abuse," Morrisey said. "The document simply wasn't made for that purpose."

Green said the document was issued by the Holy Office because it had responsibility for dealing with "serious violations of the sacrament of penance."

Canon lawyers told NCR that secrecy in canonical cases serves three purposes:

First, it is designed to allow witnesses and other parties to speak freely, knowing that their responses will be confidential.

Second, it allows the accused party to protect his good name until guilt is established.

Third, it allows victims to come forward without exposing themselves to publicity.

The high degree of secrecy in Crimen Sollicitationis was also related to the fact that it dealt with the confessional.


Those motives for confidentiality, experts say, must be distinguished from a widespread "mentality" that sought to protect the church from scandal by not reporting sexual abuse by priests to the police.

As a matter of canon law, the obligation of secrecy in canonical cases does not prohibit a bishop or other church officials from reporting crimes to the proper authorities.

Conflicts may arise, however, if civil authorities seek access to the secret acts of canonical procedures.

That Crimen Sollicitationis was not designed to "cover up" sex abuse, canonists say, is clear in paragraph 15, which obligates anyone with knowledge of a priest abusing the confessional for that purpose to come forward, under pain of excommunication for failing to do so.

This penalty is stipulated, the document says, "lest [the offense] remain occult and unpunished and always with inestimable detriment to souls."

Canon lawyers also note that pontifical secrecy is hardly reserved to sexual abuse. Under a Feb. 4, 1974, instruction Secreta Continere, pontifical secrecy covers:

1) Documents for which pontifical secrecy is expressly indicated;

2) Affairs dealt with by the Secretariat of State under pontifical secrecy;

3) Doctrinal denunciations and publications of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, as well as its investigations;

4) Extrajudicial denunciations of crimes against the faith or against morals, and crimes against the sacrament of penance, as well as the procedures leading to these denunciations;

5) Acts by Vatican representatives relative to matters covered by the pontifical secret;

6) Creation of cardinals;

7) Nomination of bishops, apostolic administrators and other ordinaries with episcopal power, and the procedures related to these appointments; 8) Nomination of superiors and other major officials of the Roman curia;

9) Codes and coded correspondence;

10) Affairs and practices of the pope, of the chief cardinal or archbishop of a dicastery and of pontifical representatives.

National Catholic Reporter, August 7, 2003


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TERESA BENEDETTA
Monday, October 02, 2006 3:03 PM
TOWARDS MORE OPEN DIALOG
Happy or not, it was not a mistake, but it's what this priest said. I have taken the liberty of translating 'felix culpa' into 'happy mistake' as a more idiomatic translation instead of the translation 'fortunate fall' that the AFP used.

But how open can the other side be if the prevailing culture is closed?

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Egyptian priest says
Pope's comntroversial citation
was a 'happy mistake'

by Alain Navarro


CAIRO, Oct. 2, 2006 (AFP) - Pope Benedict's statements which linked Islam to violence and caused outrage in the Muslim world were in fact a "happy mistake" which could lead to a more open dialogue between the two faiths according to an Egyptian priest.

Henry Boulad, the director of the Jesuit college in Cairo, believes the time has come for "clarity, an exit from the vagueness," in the relationship between Christianity and Islam.

Born in Alexandria in 1931 and now the head of Cairo's French Jesuit college, Boulad says that the speech given by Pope Benedict XVI which quoted a medieval Christian emperor who linked Islam with violence, while "unfortunate and regrettable" had the ability to spark a "more real and frank dialogue" between the two religions.

"If there was an error on the part of the pope, it could turn fortunate: it is a felix culpa," he told AFP, borrowing St. Augustine's expression in Latin, to describe an unfortunate event which brings about good.

Sitting in his modest office at the college of the Holy Family in the Fagallah district of Cairo, a melting pot of Cairo's elite for over a century, the priest predicts "the beginning of the experiment."

Boulad believes that moderate or reformist Islamists are today marginalized in Egypt, suppressed under a trend of "Islamization of society."

For him, Islamism, a trend advocating the re-organization of government and society in accordance with laws prescribed by Islam, "reflects the essence of an Islam that has been frozen, like a chick still in its egg."

"It's a type of totalitarian thought," says the priest who formerly held the post of vice president of the Christian aid agency Caritas in the Arab world.

"Girls are veiled younger and younger and the thrust towards fundamentalism continues with a radicalization of minds," he says.

The priest who studied in Lebanon, France and United States also talks of an "Islamic schizophrenia" especially on the issue of women who are seen as "objects of lust but forbidden" simultaneously.

"Gender is a central problem," he says.

Benedict's comments "fully reflect his will to clarify what separates Islam from Christianity over these fundamental questions," says Boulad.

According to the priest, Benedict is a man who understands Islamic theology well, allowing the pope "to say that 'Islam is inseparable from politics and a global social project.'"

As for the reactions of Muslim communities around the world which were at times violent, Boulad describes them as "understandable but often irrational."

"The pope's statements will force each person to expose what is in their heart, without pretense," he says.

[G]"When they say Islam is a religion of tolerance, I'm waiting for the proof," he says pointing to the lack of religious freedoms in the 57 countries with majority Muslim populations.

In Egypt, it is inconceivable for a Muslim to freely and openly convert to Christianity. Ten percent of the 72 million population are Christian, most of which belong to the Coptic Orthodox church.

If they do convert, "it is in complete secrecy or in exile," he says.

"But a Christian man who wishes to marry a Muslim woman is forced to convert to Islam," he says.

"The pope knows this. He is very lucid and he has no illusions on religious reciprocity, or rather the lack of it," says Boulad.

In Egypt, "we see a lack of critical thinking and a pull towards fundamentalism in both Muslims and Christians," says Boulad insisting he hasn't given up hope yet.

"Is Islam able to reform? That is always the question and I hope with all my heart that it can adapt to a more pluralist time in states where the worldly and the spiritual are separate."

"Today, the Arab world is taken over by modernism... with technologies and consumer products, but it will not be able to indefinitely resist modernity."

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Much of what Fr. Boulad says about Islam today as practised in Egypt coincides with observations made by Father Samir K. Samir in the AsiaNews series of articles I posted in REFLECTIONS ABOUT ISLAM this weekend.


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maryjos
Monday, October 02, 2006 3:20 PM
Sorry!
Sorry, everyone! I've put my comments on the News about the Church thread.
Mary x

The public broadcaster defended its documentary.

"The protection of children is clearly an issue of the strongest public interest," it said in a statement, responding to the bishops' criticism. "The BBC stands by tonight's 'Panorama' program, and invites viewers to make up their own minds once they've seen it."

Make up their own minds!! The BBC knows that the majority of people who watch these programmes simply absorb what they are shown - they have no minds to make up. Colm O'Gorman is a very good actor - the way he sat in that little Brazilian village, shaking his head and almost in tears, was indeed enough to make most of the viewers fall for the ploy of the programme.
The original document "Crimen Sollicitationis" was shown in Latin - this so often has the effect of lending a "sinister" appearance to anything, because so few can now understand that language and it makes the Church appear to be some sort of secret society.
Thank you, Teresa and benefan, for reporting on this nasty programme so quickly.
Mary x FORWARD WITH THIS FORUM!

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Chickadee
Monday, October 02, 2006 3:23 PM
The reactions of the various Pakistani Muslim news editors and religious leaders are very revealing and hopeful. They clearly know the deleterious effect of the western news media on this story. I especially liked their statements of respect for the Pope and their recognition of the good effects of his influence on the betterment of the world. I hope Muslims of this stripe can eventually make their voices heard with even greater volume. They are the salvation of Islam.
TERESA BENEDETTA
Monday, October 02, 2006 6:22 PM
AWW, YOU ... AT THE BBC, GET REAL!
Actually, canon lawyer Ed Peters blogged about this latest BBC poison puffball yesterday as soon as one of the English papers reported that the program had been aired. On
www.canonlaw.info/2006/10/does-bbc-enjoy-being-so-far-beh...
this is what he said to dismiss this latest attempt by determined Church haters to find fault with the Church - and with this Pope!

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Sunday, October 01, 2006
Does the BBC enjoy being
so far behind the fact curve?


Apparently the BBC thinks that if the Vatican publishes a document in 2001, (which the Catholic press reported on in early 2002), but the BBC only notices it five years later, the document must have been a deep dark Vatican secret till then. Quick, what's British English for "Get real"?

Britain's Evening Standard reports that the BBC just aired a "Panorama" story about how Pope Benedict XVI, as head of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, sent a "secret Vatican edict" to bishops around the world (right, like that's a group that could keep a secret if it tried), an edict so secret "that bishops had to keep it locked in a safe at all times", which ordered a massive cover-up of clergy sexual misconduct.

Besides narrating the usual litany of "worst-possible-interpretations" of various statements in the document, the Standard couldn't resist piling on with "The [BBC] investigation could not come at a worse time for Pope Benedict, who is desperately trying to mend the Church's relations with the Muslim world..."

What the Standard thinks ecclesiastical relations with Muslims have to do with clergy sex abuse is anybody's guess. Maybe it's British humor, you know, like the Standard asserting that Ratzinger's first name is "Thomas". (I don't get it; I mean, the man is only the pope, for crying out loud. Can't the Standard get his name right?)

Anyway, more than a year ago, when another British press organ, The Observer*, tried to hype the alleged cover-up angle of this very same story, I blogged on it (27 April 2005), pointing out that Cdl. Joseph Ratzinger's so-called secret document was published in the official journal of the Holy See, the Acta Apostolicae Sedis, vol. 93 (2001) on pp. 785-788.

[In the LAWSUIT VS RATZINGER thread, I posted a Jimmy Akins classic fisk of the Observer 'news' item that just exposes the absurdity of all these stortories filed maliciously, because the reporters don't even bother to go back and check the documnets that are the basis for the stories they are fed by self-serving lawyers! I will post Mr. Peters's 4/27/05 blog in the LAWSUIT thread, where I observed months ago that the Observer came out with its story just 8 days since Joseph Ratzinger became Pope! !]

For that matter, it was available on the Vatican website for at least several months before The Observer thought it broke the story in April of 2005. Now c'mon: it's bad enough the BBC and the Standard don't read the Acta Apostolicae Sedis; don't they even read The Observer?

Anyway, as I said back then, apparently Pope Benedict has a lot to learn about how to keep documents secret: like not publishing them in journals distributed around the world. What surprises me (though only mildly; this is main-line British journalism we're dealing with) is that I get to say it all again.

Discuss the CDF document, if you wish, O Media Elites; debate it even; but don't pretend that it was some sort of dark secret all this time, or portray yourself as valiant crusaders in search of the hidden truths, braving Vatican fury to inform the ignorant masses. Cuz it wasn't, and you're not.


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maryjos
Monday, October 02, 2006 8:17 PM
Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor's Letter to the BBC


Issued by the Roman Catholic Diocese of Westminster

DATE: 2 October 2006

P R E S S R E L E A S E

Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor expresses “enormous distress and alarm of the Catholic Community” over BBC Panorama ‘Sex crimes and the Vatican’ programme

Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor, Archbishop of Westminster and President, Catholic Bishops’ Conference of England and Wales, has today (Monday, 2 October 2006) sent the following letter to Mr Mark Thompson, the Director General of the BBC.

“Dear Mr Thompson,

In May 2005 I wrote to congratulate the BBC on its coverage of the death and funeral of Pope John Paul II and the election of Pope Benedict XVI.

It is with deep disappointment that I now write to express the enormous distress and alarm of the Catholic community at your decision to broadcast Sex crimes and the Vatican. No-one can deny the devastating effects of child abuse in our society and the damage inflicted on the victims and their families. This is particularly shameful if such abuse is committed by a priest and it is of course legitimate to portray heart-rending elements of this evil.

However, your programme sets out to inflict grave damage on Pope Benedict, the leader of a billion Catholics throughout the world. It is quite clear to me that the main focus of the programme is to seek to connect Pope Benedict with cover-up of child abuse in the Catholic Church. This is malicious and untrue and based on a false presentation of church documents.

I cannot understand why no-one from your Corporation made any attempt to contact the Catholic Church in this country for assistance in seeking accurate information about this matter. I must ask if within the BBC there is a persistent bias against the Catholic Church. There will be many, not only Catholics, who will wonder if the BBC is any longer willing to be truly objective in some of its presentations. What a pity if the respect in which the BBC is held worldwide were to be seriously undermined by the bias and lack of integrity shown in the decision to broadcast a programme such as this.

Yours sincerely”

Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor


Public Affairs Office, Archbishop’s House, Westminster, London SW1P 1 QJ



------ End of Forwarded Message


P.S. We did try to get clarification of the (rather critical) missing word(s)

Quote:
the main focus of the programme is to seek to connect Pope Benedict with cover-up of child abuse in the Catholic Church.

but no-one was able to tell us!

TERESA BENEDETTA
Tuesday, October 03, 2006 5:15 PM
POPE SAYS HE'S 'ALMOST DONE' WITH HIS NEW BOOK
Ratz-Lella in the main forum shares this exciting news agency item, translated here:


VATICAN CITY, Oct. 2, 2006 (Apcom) - Benedict XVI is putting final touches to what will be his first book as Pope (written as a book, that is, not a compilation of his homilies and messages).

He confirmed this in a meeting today with Mons. Antonio Soctti, president of the board of Libreria Editrice Vaticana (LEV), the Vatican publishing house.

"I'm working on it," the Pope reportedly said. "It lacks the final elements - I've written the preface and I'm working on the bibliography. Then I will let you know."

Under an agreement signed when he became Pope, LEV has sole publishing rights to all works by the Pope.

Someone reportedly asked the Pope at the end of the meeting how much time it would take? And he said, "Be patient!"

During the summer, it was reported that the Pope was writing a theological narrative on the life of Jesus. When he was asked about it in Les Combes, he said, "I don't know if I will get to finish it."

The occasion for the audience was the presentation of an illustrated version of the Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church, which contains much more than the 14 art works originally chose by the Pope to illustrate the chapters.

"Beauty is important to call attention to content," teh Pope said as he looked through the new book. "These are beautiful images. It's a true contribution to the catechism. Beauty, of course, is a fundamental dimension of the faith."


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TERESA BENEDETTA
Tuesday, October 03, 2006 6:26 PM
PAPAL DIPLOMACY
I was just about to translate a small item from ANSA posted in our Spanish section two days ago - which I missed! - about the Pope meeting with Iran's former president Khatami, when along comes CWN with a more extensive story on the political leaders the Pope is meeting this month.
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Pope set to meet Austrian,
Polish, Italian, Iranian leaders


Oct. 03 (CWNews.com) - Pope Benedict XVI has scheduled a number of meetings with visiting heads of state during the month of October, including a private audience with the former president of Iran.

After holding the number of private audiences to a minimum during the summer, the Holy Father will have a fuller calendar after his return to the Vatican this week.

On October 5, he will meet with Austrian President Heinz Fischer, who is likely to convey a formal invitation for the Pontiff to visit Austria. Pope Benedict has already indicated that he hopes to travel to Austria in September 2007, for ceremonies marking the 850th anniversary of the Marian shrine at Mariazell.

On October 12, the Pope will receive Polish Prime Minister Jaroslaw Kaczynski. The twin brother of President Lech Kaczynski took the reins of the Polish government in July, two months after the papal visit to Poland.

On October 16 it will be Italian Prime Minister Romano Prodi making his first visit since taking power in May, succeeding Silvio Berlusconi. The head of Italy's new center-left government had indicated some impatience in arranging a papal audience.*

Late in October - the most likely date is October 26 - the Pope will meet with Mohammad Khatami, the Islamic cleric who was president of Iran from 1997 until 2005, when he was succeeded by Mahmoun Ahmadinejad.

The former Iranian leader will participate in an October 27 seminar at the Gregorian University on how Christianity and Islam can handle the challenges of secularism, modernism, and democracy.

[The ANSA item adds that this will be Khatami's second meeting with a Pope. He was received in audience by Pope John Paul II in 1999. Hehas spoken and written about a concept he calls 'the dialog of civilizations."]

Looking ahead to November, the Pope is scheduled to meet on November 6 with Hungarian President Laszlo Solyom (whose country is currently experiencing political turmoil), and Italian President Giorgio Napolitano.
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*We did not report it here in the English section, but while Prodi was at the United Nations two weeks ago, he was asked what the Italian goivernment would do to help with the security of the Pope, considering the strident death treats to the Pope from Islamic extremists. Prodi dismissed the question by a flip "Well, his Swiss Guard can take care of that!"

He, along with President Giorgio Napolitano, have been criticized by Catholics groups in Italy for not having expressed any support for the Pope in the recent post-Regensburg uproar.


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