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maryjos
Friday, November 21, 2008 10:58 PM
Wulfrune - very interesting post
Wulfrune: Thank you for your enlightening post on this. I do wish the Requiem Mass we attended in Taunton had been a big sung Mass and had included the "In Paradisum", which you mentioned and which, I think, was included in the Mass I watched from EWTN. I wish I had recorded it.

I wonder why it's the usual thing in England to have purple vestments now for funeral Mass. Do you think we stopped using the black vestments after Vatican II. On the two occasions when I've been to the Low Mass for Holy Souls the first time the priest wore a black Gothic chasuble and on Tuesday a black Roman one. Wulfrune, can you suggest anything about the use of purple?

Also, is the "Dies Irae" always used at a sung Requiem Mass?
Wulfrune
Saturday, November 22, 2008 1:42 AM
Here is a very good article about coloured vestments at funerals:
New Liturgical Movement - there is a very good argument for black vestments with explanation, again reminding us of the existence of Purgatory.

Apparently purple or white came in with the Novus Ordo. Black vestments are never totally black, but contain gold or other rich colours to symbolise our hope. Symbolism of colour varies from place to place. In parts of France, white is the traditional colour for mourning, but it's not in Britain. Black was always the Church's colour for funerals until 40 years ago. Presumably purple was substituted because it is still quite sombre but considered less severe. I seriously don't want white vestments at my own send-off - our generation for some reason seems most squeamish about even the mention of death. It's become the new taboo, yet it is a part of life, and ignoring it is not realistic.

I attended an Anglo-Catholic funeral Mass for a relative, and the celebrant wore a black fiddleback!
maryjos
Saturday, November 22, 2008 1:53 AM
Thank you, Wulfrune!
There you go - the Anglo-Catholics are more Catholic than Catholics!
I would like the priest to wear black at my send off, but I do not want the congregation to turn up in black suits like a lot of crows. I go to nearly all the funeral Masses in our parish and out come the black suits. I never wear black [except for my trousers, which are usually black anyway]. It's not supposed to be sad for the person who has gone........unless they've gone to hell, of course!!!!! I'm expecting a long sentence in purgatory myself
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PapaBear16
Saturday, November 22, 2008 11:35 PM
Vestment Colors
Another interesting observatin is the cultural aspect.  In Hawaii, naturally, we have so many people from everywhere.  There is a strong Samoan Community presence in our parish and their tradition is to wear white for funerals.  The Filipinos, at last here, tend to wear the black or more somber colors.  Native Hawaiians wear whte.

One thing about Hawaii in general, death is not a "tucked under the cover" subject.  The funerl Masses are very joyful while still dealing with the sorrow of the physical presence.  And oh, so many leis!  In the photo below, I'm wearing a silk handmade lei that looks like the ilima flower - many family and friends bring leis to honor the deceased - they are draped in the coffin, given to the family and friends, etc.  At one funeral, you could really catch the scent of mai'li leis - they are found on the Big Island where the erupting volcano is or on the wet island of Kauai.  The scent is is pungent yet sweet.  It is the lei of the ali'i - royalty. 

Our priests are so fortunate, too, hardly a weekend goes by without someone bringing them a lei to wear for Mass.  I think the generosity of our people helps to lift their hearts in joy at a a loved ones' death.  They believe in the Risen Lord.

Wulfrune
Sunday, November 23, 2008 6:06 PM
Papabear, thank you for your heartwarming description of Hawaiian funerals!

Mary - you asked about the Dies Irae at High Masses. I attended the Latin Mass Society annual TLM Requiem for its deceased members yesterday and it was a sung High Mass. Yes, we had the Dies Irae and it was magnificent, sung in chant rather than Verdi style. A draped catafalque with unbleached candles at each corner, I'd never been to anything like it. Jollity was reserved for later - a number of us convened in a local pub afterwards and were there for some considerable time.

It's Christ the King today - in the modern Ordo - a very good time to think of the Last Things. I attended a low TLM today, the first I've ever attended, and we heard a wonderful sermon from the young FSSP priest. He reminded us that Christ died once and for all to save us from our sins, paying the price that we cannot pay - we didn't ask him to do this but it does require a response from us. I think that's why we have sombre colours at funerals and a reminder that what we do here affects how we spend eternity.
maryjos
Monday, November 24, 2008 5:52 PM
Requiems and leis!
Papabear: I think the idea of bringing a lei each Sunday is beautiful and generous and I can certainly understand the sentiments expressed in the Hawaiian funeral masses too. Really, it should be a joyful occasion.

Wulfrune: You certainly had a traditional weekend! Wonderful! The Requiem you attended does sound similar to the one they had on EWTN, where they also had a catafalque draped in black and the four candles, one at each corner. I had never seen such a thing before as the only Requiem Masses I have attended have had real coffins.

The Low Mass I attended last week did have all the prayers at the end: three Hail Marys, the Salve Regina and the Prayer to Saint Michael. All said and in English, but never mind - it meant that the Mass ended prayerfully [literally] and we all had time for silent prayer afterwards. I definitely feel that the reception of Holy Communion at these Masses is more holy and I'd like to see a return to this everywhre. Time is needed and I'm sure Papa's idea is to bring together the two Roman rites, but he's not in a hurry.
TERESA BENEDETTA
Sunday, December 28, 2008 12:03 AM
ON THE RIGHT ATTITUDE
TO CHURCH VESTMENTS
- AND CHURCH TREASURE IN GENERAL




The recent pictures of Cardinal Canizares in formal vestments, including the cappa magna (right photo) posted on some blogs occasioned a mixed bag of reactions, many of them negative and derisive.

Here are two bloggers sounding off on what I believe to be the right attitude to have in this respect.


Sartorial-Theological Shock Therapy
by Matthew

Dec. 16, 2008

The cappa is strange, is weird, is alien, but then our self-destructive, neurotic culture has so few symbols that things that would have seem gracious to any more sensible, more human age frighten us.

Such things force us to look outside our normal, beige, elasticized zone of comfort.

Whenever bishops or priests shun the pomp of office (pomp which itself a sort of mortification in this epoch of conspicuously consumptive convenience), I am tempted to say, 'Don't be so humble, you're not that great.'

There is a certain personality type one finds that uses the whole "just ordinary folks" business to indulge in ego trips; the rejection of useless gold, gems and brocade may actually be a prideful act rather than one of humility.

There is a reason Thomas of Canterbury and Pius XII wore their hair shirts on the inside, rather than on the outside, of their splendid garments.

Hierarchy ought to force ordinary men to rise to the occasion, and vesture like this reminds us that both tradition and Tradition are bigger than you or me. In this case, about fifteen to thirty feet.



Matthew sends us to another blogger who posts what one of his readers (who preferred to remain anonymous) sent him:


Train of thought

December 10, 2008



It is not something we always recall, but the purpose of beautiful vestments, as Peter the Venerable reminded even Bernard of Clairvaux (and as Bernard admitted) is to remind the faithful not of how great the priest is but of the heavenly liturgy which our earthly liturgy represents.

The heavenly liturgy is spoken of throughout the Old Testament (see Isaiah, Ezekiel, and the Psalms) and especially in the Book of Revelation, which depicts heaven as an eternal liturgy in which the faithful become Christ's temple and worship him forever before the throne.

The bishop, as St. Cyprian and St. John Chrysostom tell us, is charged with representing Christ in his humility, in his judgment, in his mercy, and in his majesty.

The ancient basilicas positioned the bishop's throne in the center of the apse, with the deacons arrayed to either side representing the Lord with his twelve apostles on either side of him.

Hence here, in a liturgical setting, we find the bishop representing Christ on the throne in a manner that recalls Isaiah's vision of God dwelling with humans in his Temple:

"In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the LORD sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple." (Isaiah 6.1)

And then, in a line that ought to be familiar from the Mass, which is evoking the same image:

"Above it stood the seraphim: each one had six wings; with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he did fly. / And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory." (Isaiah 6.2-3)

For as long as we give in to a secular model, which associates the clothes with the man, we buy into a culture of pride and vanity in which clothes declare only personal greatness.

Many within the Church are guilty of this at times (myself included), but we allow this view to triumph if we immediately call something pompous simply because it evokes a scene of majesty.

None of us have any reason to suspect the Cardinal's (Canizares) sincerity. When he dons the vestments of Christ in glory, the Cardinal must know well, being a liturgical scholar, that he puts on spiritually the crown of thorns and the Cross.

To us he must show the glory of God, while in his heart he must bear the weight of serving God. (Ratzinger makes the same point in his "Spirit of the Liturgy").

So please: When we see something odd, let us ask why it may exist and why it my have been maintained, and what spiritual benefit it may offer us. This needn't be "embarrassing."

If this doesn't speak to us, we ought to become more familiar with the scriptures so that, when we see a cappa magna (originally so long so that it would cover the horse while the bishop rode), we think not of secular princes but of the heavenly throne room and the crucified Lamb whom the bishop must strive always to represent, in poverty by his humility and in glory by his service at the liturgy.



And here are some of the pictures Fr. Jim Tucker collected for his Dappled Things photo project on Church vestments, showing various familiar personages in the cappa magna,
dappledphotos.blogspot.com/2005/09/cappa-magna.html
i.e., Cardinal Canizares was not making a fashion statement by wearing the garment. simply carrying on a tradition that, although no longer mandatory, is followed today even by prelates of less rank:



Left, John Paul II, as Archbishop of Cracow, in a winter cappa magna with ermine capelet;
right, Cardinal Pell, Archbishop of Sydney, photogrpahed in Cologne, 2005.




John XXIII, as Apostolic Nuncio to Paris (left figure in left photo); France's famous Cardinal Richelieu, its 17th century 'eminence grise' (center);
and right, Paul VI in cappa magna, greeting Cardinal Roncalli.




Left, Cardinals pay homage to John XXIII at the start of his Pontificate; center, John XXIII as Cardinal Roncalli, Patriarch of Venice,
in regular cappa magna; and right, in ermine-topped winter cappa magna (note ermine tails in capelet).




Archbishop Raymond Burke, now President of the Apostolic Segnatura, wearing the cappa as Bishop of LaCrosse and later, Bishop of St. Louis.





The Catholic Church, while it has not stripped down its prelates to the bare-bones sartorial spareness of some Protestant denominations, is nowhere near the sumptuousness and elaborate complexity of vestments used by the Orthodox Churches for their hierarchy and for liturgical use - or of some Buddhist sects and rites (including the Tibetan), for that matter.

Open any book or encyclopedia reference about the Potala, historic residence of the Dalai Lamas in Lhasa, with documentation and photos of the dozens of chapels within it (or ask anyone who has seen them) - and the treasures they hold in gold and precious gemstones decorating their images and altars - all that is even more mind-boggling than Aladdin's Cave.

Or think of the mammoth Shwe Dagon Buddhist pagoda in the heart of Yangon(Rangoon), Myanmar, whose entire roof and almost every surface within that is not at floor level is covered with gold leaf, and re-gilded every year to keep it pristinely dazzling - it's arguably the most dazzling edifice on earth, and it owes its dazzle not to any lighting but to pure gold.

And yet, one of the favorite targets of bleeding-heart liberals - and even many Catholics themselves - is the supposed inappropriateness, or even outright anomaly, in the fact that ministers/servants of God should 'dress up' at all, that what is spent on vestments [and other Church accessories and 'adornments'] could be much better put to use in charities for the poor. The Church has been doing both for two millennia, thank you.

Having grown up in a Church that is historically and stylistically a child of the Spanish late Renaissance and Baroque, my earliest (and only) experience of beautiful 'costly' things was in the Church - where nothing could be good enough or beautiful enough as a homage to the God we worship and adore, and for his Church.

Objects in gold and silver, velvet and lace; fresh flowers and incense, embroidery and tatting, goldsmithery and carving, painting and sculpture and architecture: Where else could someone living in a provincial backwater town in the Third World see these things as real and get a transcendent sense of the beauty and mystery that God has given us with his gift of life and of the world we live in?

I don't recall anyone telling me so, but it just seemed logical: If God is the Supreme Being to which we owe everything, then he deserves only the best. And it seemed to me a tacit principle that everyone who came to Church just knew in their heart and never questioned.

I continue to think it is a valid and worthy criterion. The two blogs I cited provide the theology behind it - which also reminds us that liturgical vestments are not meant to be the subject of a 'fashion review', and that our personal preferences about liturgical 'looks' are rather irrelevant.
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Simone55
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 7:44 PM
I just captured this pictures from the today's Vesper.

It looks like as if Papa has gotten wings.

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Gee, thanks Marianne! I just did a posting about the service in REFLECTIONS ON OUR FAITH, lamenting that 'no pictures have come out yet' - and here you are!

Indeed, the spread-out cope looks from behind like he has sprouted wings.

TERESA




maryjos
Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:35 AM
Hello Teresa and Simone!
I watched the Vespers and Benediction this evening - it was all beautiful! Luckily that cope seemed to be much lighter in weight than some of the previous one which Papa has worn. Thanks for the pics!
TERESA BENEDETTA
Thursday, January 01, 2009 2:28 AM
P.S. ON THE COPE TODAY

This is carried over from REFLECTIONS ON OUR FAITH ...
where I did my first post on today's services.




The Pope wore a cope made for John XXIII, whose coat of arms are embroidered
on the front of the cope, with a morse (clasp) I had not seen before. (Curiously,
Paul VI was wearing the same cope or a similar one, with John XXIII's coat of arms, in the
picture I just happened to come across today when I was googling for photos of papal 'morses'!
It looks much longer as worn by Paul VI because it was originally cut as a 'mantle' which is
supposed to be more voluminous and longer than a cope; apparently, it has been shortened to
regular cope length for Benedict XVI.)





TERESA BENEDETTA
Saturday, January 03, 2009 11:15 PM
I've not seen anyone in the blogosphere identify or ocmment on the Pope's apparently
new morse so far, whereas John XXIII's cope has been amply noted, as his coat of arms
is unmistakable.


But the photo above by Spaziani, first commented on at NLM and echoed by Father Z,
also shows another Papal accessory - more properly, an adjunct, like the papal chair,
or the papal staff - in the Faltstuhl, to use the German term, or the 'folding stool'
that has been placed for the Pope to rest his arms on when he is kneeling, in place of
the more usual front armrest of a prie-Dieu. They remark that Benedict XVI's coat of arms
in the medallion on the Faltstuhl indicates the piece was recently refurbished for him.
The corner cherub on the stool is a great touch.

We saw a more massive sort of Faltstuhl in the Midnight Mass on Christmas,

although it may have been the very same one used in the main altar for the Dec. 31 Adoration,
as can be seen from Simone's picture below, in which the cope is draped over the stool
to cover it completely. (Fr. Z notes that is the proper way to drape a cope 'over a bench'.)
This one does not look like it has cherubim heads at the corners.

Maybe there's another term for when the 'Faltstuhl' is too massive that it cannot possibly be a folding piece of furniture.

I'll have to go back to pick out some pictures in the past, but I always liked Leo XIII's chair (the most ceremonial and 'throne'-like of those that the Pope uses) because of the cherubim that adorn it. It is usually not difficult to find shots of Benedict XVI photographed with one or two of the cherubim and looking like their living counterpart, with the same look of innocence and joy of adoration.


maryjos
Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:41 PM
From the New Liturgical Movement site:
Sorry didn't know where to post this .. I was looking for the Vestments thread but anyway, since it made its appearance at Papa's mass in the chapel ...

Monday, January 11, 2010

Restored Altar Frontal for the Sistine Chapel

Some of you may have noticed the altar frontal we had not seen before in yesterday's papal Mass in the Sistine chapel. Here is a better look at it (click to enlarge):




From the 11-12 January edition of the Osservatore Romano (NLM translation) we learn that it is:

[...] a frontal of 1747 - a work of the Turinese cabinet maker Pietro Piffetti (1701-1777) - made in wood covered by mother-of-pearl, inlaid with ivory and tortoiseshell joined by brass wire. It was used for the first time after the restoration which was concluded last 22 December. It was commissioned by Carlo Vittorio Amedeo delle Lanze as a token of gratitude to Pope Benedict XIV for the cardinalatial purple which he received in 1747. Traditionally it was used in the Palatine Chapel of the Quirinal Palace [NLM note: the papal residence until the conquest of Rome by the Italians in 1870] until it was brought to the Vatican by Pius IX.


Posted by PapaB on the News thread. I've managed to copy and paste it into the Vestments thread [with heart in mouth, but it worked]. It may be a good idea to bring this thread forward, as this year is likely to see some new or different vestments. At least I hope so!
PapaB83
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:59 AM
Vestments

Maryjos ...  thanks so much for re-posting on the correct thread.  I guess I was too lazy to go to page 2!
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